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    Speaking of NIL-Mark Sanchez weighs in on USC “On PAR” with SEC

    Mark Sanchez Says NIL Has USC and Riley ‘On Par’ With SEC Teams:

    Lincoln Riley has been active in his use of the transfer portal to revamp the USC football program ahead of the 2022 season. Since leaving Oklahoma for Los Angeles, Riley has brought in several high-profile players including former Sooners quarterback Caleb Williams and wide receivers Mario Williams and Latrell McCutchin.

    As name, image and likeness rules have given college athletes more ability to profit while in school, recent developments have led to speculation of some players getting paid to transfer. Former USC quarterback Mark Sanchez sees how Riley and the Trojans have been able to stay on par in this aspect with some of the top programs in the country.

    “You can compete with these SEC schools and now we are on par with them,” Sanchez said on The Herd with Collin Cowherd show. “All these collectives created so that everybody gets a little piece of the action—I don’t know where this ever stops. These bidding wars … It’s the wild, wild west right now. But USC is dishing out some cash and figuring it out.”

    In the latest state of affairs in the transfer portal, Riley has been under fire as Pittsburgh All-American wide receiver Jordan Addison officially entered the transfer portal on Tuesday and is looking for a new home. Addison has not ruled out a return to the Panthers’ program. However, Pitt coach Pat Narduzzi reportedly suspected that USC was tampering by reaching out to Addison prior to him entering the transfer portal.

    https://www.si.com/.amp/extra-mustar...with-sec-teams

    #2
    Guess it’s only a matter of time…

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      #3
      College football as we knew it is finished. It will now become nothing but a player development league for the NFL. Out of necessity players will become school employees and will sign contracts with well defined guarantees and assurances for both parties.

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        #4
        Originally posted by MuleshoeSooner View Post
        College football as we knew it is finished. It will now become nothing but a player development league for the NFL. Out of necessity players will become school employees and will sign contracts with well defined guarantees and assurances for both parties.
        College football is not done. However, the college football we all grew up with concerning bowls, honesty and integrity is done. It is going to be a survival of the fittest or…$$$.

        I expect some regulations coming concerning NIL, if not from NCAAF, the gubment.

        Far as Mark Sanchez and USC, if OU is in the position to beat the brakes off them, I will be their largest advocate. And voice. He and PAC has never done anything but talk trash about the SEC caus he’s a Fukn loser and a pussy. And if OU can’t, I have a feeling who can. “We can now be on PAR with the SEC!”…fk, good luck with that.

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          #5
          Wasn't Sanchez the butt fumble guy? This time it's a brain fart.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Velo Sooner View Post
            Wasn't Sanchez the butt fumble guy? This time it's a brain fart.
            Winston?

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              #7
              Originally posted by SEC View Post

              College football is not done. However, the college football we all grew up with concerning bowls, honesty and integrity is done. It is going to be a survival of the fittest or…$$$.

              I expect some regulations coming concerning NIL, if not from NCAAF, the gubment.

              Far as Mark Sanchez and USC, if OU is in the position to beat the brakes off them, I will be their largest advocate. And voice. He and PAC has never done anything but talk trash about the SEC caus he’s a Fukn loser and a pussy. And if OU can’t, I have a feeling who can. “We can now be on PAR with the SEC!”…fk, good luck with that.
              Mark Sanchez is forgetting one thing. LR is the coach. USC can write any check they want but the coach they have now will never take them to the promise land. LR was gifted a NC caliber team and blew a 35-17 lead in the Georgia game and OU regressed every year he was here. USC will never earn a NC under his watch.

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                #8
                Originally posted by SEC View Post
                I expect some regulations coming concerning NIL, if not from NCAAF, the gubment.
                I don't know what the government can do. If these are fully emancipated individuals - as defined by the 13th and 14th amendments of the Constitution - who have the right to participate in our society the same as any other citizen, then they (like their coaches) can earn as much money as they like as long as state/federal commerce and trade laws are followed. So unless Congress passes an Act that student athletes are going to be treated like felons or slaves, something that will almost certainly be resolutely opposed by any President and any Supreme Court (going back to the infamous Tawney decision), I think the 'gubment' is going to stay far far far out of it.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by amtc View Post

                  Mark Sanchez is forgetting one thing. LR is the coach. USC can write any check they want but the coach they have now will never take them to the promise land. LR was gifted a NC caliber team and blew a 35-17 lead in the Georgia game and OU regressed every year he was here. USC will never earn a NC under his watch.
                  Hear ya. But those West coast guysms are concerned(talking about the competition)…however, the SEC ain’t.

                  And regardless of the pissing match, he’s benefiting and Sanchez is trying to point that out.

                  IOW, “they’ve leveled up” because Riley…hehe. GLWT

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                    #10
                    USC has a lot of $$$. And in a hot bed of recruits. And a player coach.

                    They will at some point have to be dealt with. Can book that. May not be under Riley, but Sanchez and some seem to think so.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by SEC View Post
                      USC has a lot of $$$. And in a hot bed of recruits. And a player coach.

                      They will at some point have to be dealt with. Can book that. May not be under Riley, but Sanchez and some seem to think so.
                      if USC succeeds it will be with a different coach. Look at what LR did to OU. He had top five recruiting classes, a national champion caliper team and his last year here we barely beat Tulane.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by amtc View Post

                        if USC succeeds it will be with a different coach. Look at what LR did to OU. He had top five recruiting classes, a national champion caliper team and his last year here we barely beat Tulane.

                        Careful. You will be dust and feathered around here for such by the grammar freaks…just ask me. You may not have an education! Lol

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                          #13
                          Riley is far and away their best hire since NoPete left. And that includes them stiffing Coach Ogre.

                          Question remains where Riley will be in 4-5 years and whether he can get them to a NC before he bitches out for an NFL gig.

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                            #14
                            As head coaches go LR is a really good offensive coordinator. Good luck with that, glad he's not our issue anymore.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ouflak View Post

                              I don't know what the government can do. If these are fully emancipated individuals - as defined by the 13th and 14th amendments of the Constitution - who have the right to participate in our society the same as any other citizen, then they (like their coaches) can earn as much money as they like as long as state/federal commerce and trade laws are followed. So unless Congress passes an Act that student athletes are going to be treated like felons or slaves, something that will almost certainly be resolutely opposed by any President and any Supreme Court (going back to the infamous Tawney decision), I think the 'gubment' is going to stay far far far out of it.
                              Its the anti-trust laws that the courts have ruled the NCAA has violated. Congress passes a law that exempts the organizations running college athletics from anti-trust laws by following a new set of laws governing all of this. This is regulating interstate commerce, something Congress has the power to do.

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by FtwTxSooner View Post

                                Its the anti-trust laws that the courts have ruled the NCAA has violated. Congress passes a law that exempts the organizations running college athletics from anti-trust laws by following a new set of laws governing all of this. This is regulating interstate commerce, something Congress has the power to do.
                                But will they?

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ouflak View Post

                                  I don't know what the government can do.
                                  IMHO anywhere there is a pot of $$$$ gubment shows up and takes what it wants ... and regulates, controls whatever ... so that it can take what it wants ... notice a pattern? Universities are already bigly dependent on gubment handouts (college loan programs) so gubment is already there, tentacles reaching far and wide.

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by amtc View Post

                                    Mark Sanchez is forgetting one thing. LR is the coach. USC can write any check they want but the coach they have now will never take them to the promise land. LR was gifted a NC caliber team and blew a 35-17 lead in the Georgia game and OU regressed every year he was here. USC will never earn a NC under his watch.
                                    LR did not blow a 31-17 lead against Georgia. He blew a 31-14 lead against Georgia. What an idiot: squib kicking to Georgia when he had a kicker who could send the ball over the endzone on the fly.

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by amtc View Post
                                      ... LR ... OU regressed every year he was here.
                                      Beg to differ. Nobody, and I mean nobody - could keep pace with us with kettle bells.

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ouflak View Post

                                        I don't know what the government can do. If these are fully emancipated individuals - as defined by the 13th and 14th amendments of the Constitution - who have the right to participate in our society the same as any other citizen, then they (like their coaches) can earn as much money as they like as long as state/federal commerce and trade laws are followed. So unless Congress passes an Act that student athletes are going to be treated like felons or slaves, something that will almost certainly be resolutely opposed by any President and any Supreme Court (going back to the infamous Tawney decision), I think the 'gubment' is going to stay far far far out of it.
                                        Restraint of trade lawsuits will be flying. You can only make this much. Good luck with that once the free market is open. Isn't any salary cap that needs to be adhered to and that isn't a restraint of trade issue.

                                        I'm going to enjoy watching sc lineman, with captain Kettleballs training them, get trucked by the Utes.

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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MuleshoeSooner View Post
                                          College football as we knew it is finished. It will now become nothing but a player development league for the NFL. Out of necessity players will become school employees and will sign contracts with well defined guarantees and assurances for both parties.
                                          All student-athletes formally becoming employees is not the worst that can happen. It’s probably the easiest way out of the current debacle. You don’t see this level of 24/7/365 chaos even in pro sports because there are contracts and salaries, with salary caps maintaining parity, instead of perpetual free agency and unlimited undocumented cash. That may not be what’s best for the game but what we have now is a lot worse.

                                          Money would flow through the athletic departments. It would be on the books and state employees would be accountable for how it’s spent. It would be taxed correctly and consistently, and you could probably find a way for certain states to take a cut of money donated for student-athlete pay. Kinda like weed: the people who want to buy players want to do it so dang bad that they’ll let the state charge them whatever. And most importantly, the schools themselves would negotiate with a long-term plan. These collectives just throw as much cash as they can at whoever they want. There’s less ego involved when it’s ADs building a whole class instead of one booster against another for a single guy.

                                          Let the schools negotiate with all other sports as well. Some need to accept less than a full 4+ year athletic scholarship for the value they bring in.

                                          If salary caps are legal in pro sports, they will be legal in college, and even among the SEC spenders there will be a realization that boosters paying 7 figures to individual players is starving the department of what used to be donations. Even the most insane player-buyers might soon welcome some limits instead of being sucked into uncapped bidding wars for unproven teenagers year after year.

                                          And this is a hot take, but if the ability to organize and bargain leads to a national strike, then we need that. The perception of 99.5% of college athletes’ value is out of touch with reality. They need to see the world go on for a season without them while they’re locked out of their $100M facilities and their NFL development goes straight in the toilet, or watch some zero-star scabs draw the same 85K fans they did.
                                          Last edited by AppySooner; 05-20-2022, 11:34 AM.

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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by MichSooner View Post

                                            LR did not blow a 31-17 lead against Georgia. He blew a 31-14 lead against Georgia. What an idiot: squib kicking to Georgia when he had a kicker who could send the ball over the endzone on the fly.
                                            Siebert wasn't kicking it through the end zone headed that direction on the field (south). He got the one prior basically to the goal line which was returned for about 35 yards.

                                            His crap execution, was not being able to kick a ball between 2 players 10 yds apart, was the killer.

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by SEC View Post

                                              College football is not done. However, the college football we all grew up with concerning bowls, honesty and integrity is done.
                                              You disagree with him in your first sentence and then completely agree with him in your second sentence. Which is it?

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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by traxx View Post

                                                You disagree with him in your first sentence and then completely agree with him in your second sentence. Which is it?
                                                He was only done with half of that bottle of jack. Like a magic 8 ball, answer will be clearer once he bottoms that bottle.

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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by traxx View Post

                                                  You disagree with him in your first sentence and then completely agree with him in your second sentence. Which is it?
                                                  Neither

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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by SEC View Post

                                                    Winston?
                                                    .

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                                                      #27
                                                      I cannot stand LR or his prostitute Williams. I hope he and Caleb go on a vacation to Yellowstone and Rip takes them on a certain road trip.

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                                                        #28
                                                        USC has put all their chips on LIAR, CW, latrell mccutchen, Mario Williams…LO FUCKING L.

                                                        Fools gold.

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                                                          #29
                                                          I think LR will be successful. I think with free flowing money he can acquire enough stars to overcome even his in game stupidity.

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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Velo Sooner View Post
                                                            .

                                                            Gotcha. Thought maybe it was crab legs:

                                                            Talking about flubbed up…

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                                                              #31
                                                              It appears Mark Sanchez is as good at college football analysis as he was at NFL quarterbacking.

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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Sooner in SoCal View Post

                                                                Siebert wasn't kicking it through the end zone headed that direction on the field (south). He got the one prior basically to the goal line which was returned for about 35 yards.

                                                                His crap execution, was not being able to kick a ball between 2 players 10 yds apart, was the killer.
                                                                Funny how folks forget that players have to execute. Like when OU’s entire punt team whiffed on Tyreek Hill… all of a sudden a fucking HALL OF FAMER head coach was the bum.

                                                                About the only players who have to execute in fans’ eyes are QBs. When a pass gets intercepted it’s always “that fucking bum” quarterback.

                                                                In short, not a great call by Riley but even worse execution by Seibert. To add, you don’t just blow a 17-point lead in one play. Jawja had 14 points before that kick and finished with 54. There was a whole lot of fail going on in that game.

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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by 49cent View Post
                                                                  Riley is far and away their best hire since NoPete left. And that includes them stiffing Coach Ogre.

                                                                  Question remains where Riley will be in 4-5 years and whether he can get them to a NC before he bitches out for an NFL gig.
                                                                  riley could have had a chance if he had not taken the bulk of his OU staff with him. If he had hired an offensive guru and a fresh defensive coordinator , plus the conditioning coach etc, maybe they would benefit from his recruiting and his popularity with players. But it is cut and paste the same approach he had at OU. which regressed each year. Heck he lost some crazy stupid games and was blown out against LSU and others.
                                                                  I recall OU fans were calling for lincoln riely to hire an offensive coach last year !!! Of course he thinks he is smarter than all and does not need one. , Well that did not work out against OSU or Baylor and many others as we have seen .

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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Basel90 View Post

                                                                    riley could have had a chance if he had not taken the bulk of his OU staff with him. If he had hired an offensive guru and a fresh defensive coordinator , plus the conditioning coach etc, maybe they would benefit from his recruiting and his popularity with players. But it is cut and paste the same approach he had at OU. which regressed each year. Heck he lost some crazy stupid games and was blown out against LSU and others.
                                                                    I recall OU fans were calling for lincoln riely to hire an offensive coach last year !!! Of course he thinks he is smarter than all and does not need one. , Well that did not work out against OSU or Baylor and many others as we have seen .
                                                                    My first thought when LR took Grinch and Wiley with him was that old definition of insanity.

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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by FtwTxSooner View Post
                                                                      Its the anti-trust laws that the courts have ruled the NCAA has violated. Congress passes a law that exempts the organizations running college athletics from anti-trust laws by following a new set of laws governing all of this. This is regulating interstate commerce, something Congress has the power to do.
                                                                      Sure Congress has that power. That said, unless Congress passes a law that states student athletes are not fully emancipated individuals (or that none of us are), then they cannot legally constrain the amount of money they can make. The only way that is possible is if Congress passes an Act that states that being a student athlete is the equivalent to being a slave or a felon. Such a law will never realistically get out of any committee if it's even ridiculously proposed. It sure as heck wouldn't pass Congress, but even if it did, what U.S. President and Supreme Court combination would let such a bill pass into law and stand? You have to go back almost 170 years to even speculate at a possibility.

                                                                      But yeah there's nothing stopping Congress from exempting all college athletic programs from following anti-trust laws. I think that's a bad law and sets a dangerous precedent. Afterall, a lot of businesses could make a LOT more money with that kind of exemption. And some of those businesses, especially corporations, have a lot more influence with Congress than these schools do. A lot.

                                                                      However, if such a law restrains compensation in any way, I don't see how such a law cannot directly contradict the 13th and 14th amendments of the U.S. Constitution anyway, atleast not in such a way that would be supported by the other two branches of government. So any talk like this seems fantasy to me.

                                                                      Originally posted by AppySooner View Post
                                                                      If salary caps are legal in pro sports, they will be legal in college.
                                                                      But there is no question about the legality of salary caps in professional sports and never has been since those are specific contractual agreements with all of the athletes themselves. And even then, such labor contracts must still follow all state and federal labor laws (and they do, or they get thrown out after the first lawsuit and have to be renegotiated).

                                                                      What the NCAA is proposing, along with some fans of the sport I guess, is that the government actually apply a salary cap to individuals based on their status as college athletes. If the government does this, then this contradicts not only its own federal labor laws, free trade laws and existing commerce laws, it would also override all such equivalent or similar state laws (which is not clear that they can do). Further it must, by definition, contradict the 13th and 14th amendments of the Constitution.

                                                                      No chance.
                                                                      Last edited by ouflak; 05-25-2022, 09:37 AM.

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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by ouflak View Post

                                                                        Sure Congress has that power. That said, unless Congress passes a law that states student athletes are not fully emancipated individuals (or that none of us are), then they cannot legally constrain the amount of money they can make. The only way that is possible is if Congress passes an Act that states that being a student athlete is the equivalent to being a slave or a felon. Such a law will never realistically get out of any committee if it's even ridiculously proposed. It sure as heck wouldn't pass Congress, but even if it did, what U.S. President and Supreme Court combination would let such a bill pass into law and stand? You have to go back almost 170 years to even speculate at a possibility.

                                                                        But yeah there's nothing stopping Congress from exempting all college athletic programs from following anti-trust laws. I think that's a bad law and sets a dangerous precedent. Afterall, a lot of businesses could make a LOT more money with that kind of exemption. And some of those businesses, especially corporations, have a lot more influence with Congress than these schools do. A lot.

                                                                        However, I don't see how such a law cannot directly contradict the 13th and 14th amendments of the U.S. Constitution anyway, atleast not in such a way that would be supported by the other two branches of government. So any talk like this seems fantasy to me.



                                                                        But there is no question about the legality of salary caps in professional sports since that is a specific contractual agreement with all of the ahtletes themselves. And even then, such labor contracts must still follow all state and federal labor laws (and they do).

                                                                        What the NCAA, and I guess some fans of the sport, is proposing is that the government apply a salary cap to individuals based on their status as college athletes. If the government does this, then this contradicts not only its own federal labor laws, free trade laws and existing commerce laws, it would also override all such equivalent or similar state laws (which is not clear that they can do). Further it must, by definition, contradict the 13th and 14th amendments of the Constitution.

                                                                        No chance.
                                                                        Stupid simpleton argument. There is no constitutional right to a completely unregulated marketplace. I certainly can't start up a side hustle of selling inside information. After all, its just freedom of association, freedom of speech with another individual. That doesn't make me a slave to my company or anyone else.

                                                                        Players voluntarily decide to play college football. It is flat out idiocy to call that slavery.

                                                                        Congress has full reign to regulate interstate commerce as they wish. The problem isn't the restrictions itself. An individual business can choose to put whatever constraint they want on employees. If my company prohibits me from making money outside of work, that is their prerogative. The problem comes when a group of businesses comes together and all agree to follow the same set of rules. That is where anti-trust comes in.

                                                                        The easiest solution is collective bargaining with a players union. That in itself gets a rather large anti-trust exemption for any work rules that get set down.
                                                                        Last edited by FtwTxSooner; 05-25-2022, 10:49 AM.

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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by ouflak View Post

                                                                          Sure Congress has that power. That said, unless Congress passes a law that states student athletes are not fully emancipated individuals (or that none of us are), then they cannot legally constrain the amount of money they can make. The only way that is possible is if Congress passes an Act that states that being a student athlete is the equivalent to being a slave or a felon. Such a law will never realistically get out of any committee if it's even ridiculously proposed. It sure as heck wouldn't pass Congress, but even if it did, what U.S. President and Supreme Court combination would let such a bill pass into law and stand? You have to go back almost 170 years to even speculate at a possibility.

                                                                          But yeah there's nothing stopping Congress from exempting all college athletic programs from following anti-trust laws. I think that's a bad law and sets a dangerous precedent. Afterall, a lot of businesses could make a LOT more money with that kind of exemption. And some of those businesses, especially corporations, have a lot more influence with Congress than these schools do. A lot.

                                                                          However, if such a law restrains compensation in any way, I don't see how such a law cannot directly contradict the 13th and 14th amendments of the U.S. Constitution anyway, atleast not in such a way that would be supported by the other two branches of government. So any talk like this seems fantasy to me.



                                                                          But there is no question about the legality of salary caps in professional sports and never has been since those are specific contractual agreements with all of the athletes themselves. And even then, such labor contracts must still follow all state and federal labor laws (and they do, or they get thrown out after the first lawsuit and have to be renegotiated).

                                                                          What the NCAA is proposing, along with some fans of the sport I guess, is that the government actually apply a salary cap to individuals based on their status as college athletes. If the government does this, then this contradicts not only its own federal labor laws, free trade laws and existing commerce laws, it would also override all such equivalent or similar state laws (which is not clear that they can do). Further it must, by definition, contradict the 13th and 14th amendments of the Constitution.

                                                                          No chance.
                                                                          So, you're digging in?

                                                                          The legislation isn't about the players...its about the school enticing players with cash they haven't earned. Just like any sports league, there are limits on the organization.

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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by amtc View Post

                                                                            Mark Sanchez is forgetting one thing. LR is the coach. USC can write any check they want but the coach they have now will never take them to the promise land. LR was gifted a NC caliber team and blew a 35-17 lead in the Georgia game and OU regressed every year he was here. USC will never earn a NC under his watch.

                                                                            Agree with this. Dont get me wrong. LR is a good coach. In the weak Pac 12 he will probably win the conference every year. But that's where it stops. He won't be beating any SEC teams in the playoffs and he has zero chance of winning a national title.

                                                                            Colin Cowherd and Mark Sanchez are about to discover that even a massive step up at SC is not enough to beat the big boys at the SEC level.

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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Basel90 View Post

                                                                              riley could have had a chance if he had not taken the bulk of his OU staff with him. If he had hired an offensive guru and a fresh defensive coordinator , plus the conditioning coach etc, maybe they would benefit from his recruiting and his popularity with players. But it is cut and paste the same approach he had at OU. which regressed each year. Heck he lost some crazy stupid games and was blown out against LSU and others.
                                                                              I recall OU fans were calling for lincoln riely to hire an offensive coach last year !!! Of course he thinks he is smarter than all and does not need one. , Well that did not work out against OSU or Baylor and many others as we have seen .
                                                                              Those same OU fans didn’t see the Co-OC title next to Gundy and Bedenbaugh’s names. They also didn’t realize our full-time staff was completely filled out even with Riley calling plays (which is only about 5% of an OC’s job, BTW).

                                                                              I think the only flaw I really see now for what LR did here was that after awhile his head and heart weren’t on the same page.
                                                                              Unlike Stoops who would just power through the annoyances of the job, Riley let himself get so burnt out that he played OU for a contract at another program.
                                                                              I’m not one to give WWLS Tulsa much credit but they did have quite a few people last year saying Riley was basically waiting for the right NFL gig to open up. Which means Riley either struck out with the NFL (extremely unlikely), played the media (extremely likely given the LSU fiasco) or somebody close to him knew he was flirting with other job openings and just didn’t know which job it actually was (they assumed NFL because why leave a top 5 college job?).

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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by 49cent View Post

                                                                                Those same OU fans didn’t see the Co-OC title next to Gundy and Bedenbaugh’s names. They also didn’t realize our full-time staff was completely filled out even with Riley calling plays (which is only about 5% of an OC’s job, BTW).

                                                                                I think the only flaw I really see now for what LR did here was that after awhile his head and heart weren’t on the same page.
                                                                                Unlike Stoops who would just power through the annoyances of the job, Riley let himself get so burnt out that he played OU for a contract at another program.
                                                                                I’m not one to give WWLS Tulsa much credit but they did have quite a few people last year saying Riley was basically waiting for the right NFL gig to open up. Which means Riley either struck out with the NFL (extremely unlikely), played the media (extremely likely given the LSU fiasco) or somebody close to him knew he was flirting with other job openings and just didn’t know which job it actually was (they assumed NFL because why leave a top 5 college job?).
                                                                                I wasn't one of them because his play calling was his strength. What they were saying is, on gamedays, he needed someone to call plays so he could be the head coach. The 5% thing is not accurate on gameday. Play caller has to commit well over the majority of his time concentrating on that. And the title next to Gundy and Bedenbaugh was simply contract related. They had no (maybe very little) additional responsibilities that any WR and/or OL coach typically has.

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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by SEC View Post

                                                                                  College football is not done. However, the college football we all grew up with concerning bowls, honesty and integrity is done.
                                                                                  I laughed. Good one. “Honesty and integrity” is so far from what built the blue bloods, and by extension, college football. Cheating and dishonesty has always been the true motto of college football recruiting.

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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by keef View Post

                                                                                    I laughed. Good one. “Honesty and integrity” is so far from what built the blue bloods, and by extension, college football. Cheating and dishonesty has always been the true motto of college football recruiting.
                                                                                    Yeah, and without some legislation, many schools we watch on Saturdays - fOSU included - would be akin to club teams and CERTAINLY wouldn't be on TV.

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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      LR will be have USC where he had OU, making the CFP and getting beat. OU has the better coaching staff across the board but I don’t see the recruiting going very well with Venables odd commitment rules. I hope it works and OU signs a great class, cuz there’s some seriously top level recruiters on this staff, but idk why they are trying to re invent the wheel. Time will tell if it will work, but we don’t have much time when it comes to recruiting cycles, you need every one of them to be the best possible outcome.

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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Section31 View Post

                                                                                        Yeah, and without some legislation, many schools we watch on Saturdays - fOSU included - would be akin to club teams and CERTAINLY wouldn't be on TV.
                                                                                        Oh, the little bros have had their own set of "honesty and integrity and weed circles and rapes" but this is an OU board and I was focusing on the blue bloods who cheated better than the sisters of the poor.

                                                                                        Either way, "honesty and integrity" have NEVER been associated with college football.

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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by keef View Post

                                                                                          Oh, the little bros have had their own set of "honesty and integrity and weed circles and rapes" but this is an OU board and I was focusing on the blue bloods who cheated better than the sisters of the poor.

                                                                                          Either way, "honesty and integrity" have NEVER been associated with college football.
                                                                                          I'm saying that college athletics, once regulated, made it possible for some sense of parity and more importantly allowed for more educational opportunities for kids who wouldn't have had that opportunity otherwise. The way it is now, will create less opportunities for kids not highly recruited coming out of HS. I also foresee schools cutting sports, thus cutting opportunities for women.

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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Section31 View Post

                                                                                            I'm saying that college athletics, once regulated, made it possible for some sense of parity and more importantly allowed for more educational opportunities for kids who wouldn't have had that opportunity otherwise. The way it is now, will create less opportunities for kids not highly recruited coming out of HS. I also foresee schools cutting sports, thus cutting opportunities for women.
                                                                                            I totally disagree that parity existed in college football at any point. Maybe pre-WWII, I really don't know about that.

                                                                                            It'll be interesting to see what the end of this looks like. Will it end up with a small group of semi-NFL teams in a league and the rest playing "normal" college football? Seems like it might be headed that way. I don't know what that means for opportunities but it definitely means a lot of money for the few and less money for the masses.

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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by keef View Post

                                                                                              I totally disagree that parity existed in college football at any point. Maybe pre-WWII, I really don't know about that.

                                                                                              It'll be interesting to see what the end of this looks like. Will it end up with a small group of semi-NFL teams in a league and the rest playing "normal" college football? Seems like it might be headed that way. I don't know what that means for opportunities but it definitely means a lot of money for the few and less money for the masses.
                                                                                              Relatively speaking we've have parity like never before the past 10 years. Look at some of the nobodies who've become relevant. Hell, KSU was the worst program in the history of modern college football until the 90s. Kansas had a run. Now you have mid-majors in the CFP. Say goodbye to that. I honestly can't wait to laugh at all the folks who thought this was a good idea.

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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Parity moved closer for all teams because you can't have 150+ players on scholly like pre 1973. They used to hand them out just to keep kids away from other teams.

                                                                                                Went to 105 then it's dropped to the current level of 85. Schools used to have essentially 2 full current year rosters on scholly

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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Section31 View Post

                                                                                                  Relatively speaking we've have parity like never before the past 10 years. Look at some of the nobodies who've become relevant. Hell, KSU was the worst program in the history of modern college football until the 90s. Kansas had a run. Now you have mid-majors in the CFP. Say goodbye to that. I honestly can't wait to laugh at all the folks who thought this was a good idea.
                                                                                                  Oh, you mean "meaningless parity". Sure. There's that. OSU was good a few years. Oregon, Baylor. But historically the same 15-20 teams have won most conf and national titles forever.

                                                                                                  The NFL has had more different teams win a Super Bowl in the past 50 years (out of 32 teams) than College Football has had in the same time frame. (and CF has had 125 D1 teams, give or take)

                                                                                                  That's not parity. Never was and it certainly won't be now.

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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by keef View Post

                                                                                                    Oh, you mean "meaningless parity". Sure. There's that. OSU was good a few years. Oregon, Baylor. But historically the same 15-20 teams have won most conf and national titles forever.

                                                                                                    The NFL has had more different teams win a Super Bowl in the past 50 years (out of 32 teams) than College Football has had in the same time frame. (and CF has had 125 D1 teams, give or take)

                                                                                                    That's not parity. Never was and it certainly won't be now.
                                                                                                    No, it's absolutely parity. If not for this parity those schools wouldn't have growing fan bases and revenue..which is my entire point. That's about to dwindle for those marginal teams and below.

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