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    Big 12 trying to appeal to a different culture - Targeting COO of Jay Z’s roc nation.

    As title says. Big 12 is targeting the COO of jay z’s roc nation as their new commissioner. Seems to me this is to appeal to a different culture. Even if he’s a white guy. Actually the guy is pretty smart. If they can get him, it’s a great move. I don’t see him taking the downgrade

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      #3
      Originally posted by ChpThril View Post
      As title says. Big 12 is targeting the COO of jay z’s roc nation as their new commissioner. Seems to me this is to appeal to a different culture. Even if he’s a white guy.
      Racist post reported to Moderator. Ban this guy, mod!!!!

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        Done deal...

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          #5
          Originally posted by ChpThril View Post
          As title says. Big 12 is targeting the COO of jay z’s roc nation as their new commissioner. Seems to me this is to appeal to a different culture. Even if he’s a white guy. Actually the guy is pretty smart. If they can get him, it’s a great move. I don’t see him taking the downgrade
          This is clearly an attempt to appeal to BYU.

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            #6
            Originally posted by FtwTxSooner View Post


            Done deal...
            Congratulations. Unfortunately your conference is about to be seriously downgraded due to the actions of your predecessor. But, have fun with your G6 peers. :)

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              #7
              Worth a shot to try to find some insight from other business arenas, can't be much worse than the old guy

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                #8
                Uh oh.. it that happens I’m sure some DB posters will be done with watching BIG XII football Lolol
                BOOMER!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by IKE93 View Post
                  Uh oh.. it that happens I’m sure some DB posters will be done with watching BIG XII football Lolol
                  BOOMER!
                  Why?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Widescreen View Post

                    Why?
                    Just a hunch..
                    BOOMER!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by IKE93 View Post

                      Just a hunch..
                      BOOMER!
                      You willing to explain the root cause of your "hunch"?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by SoonernVolved View Post

                        Congratulations. Unfortunately your conference is about to be seriously downgraded due to the actions of your predecessor. But, have fun with your G6 peers. :)
                        Imagine how that must feel knowing you are leading the Big 12, and every member is trying to get out of the conference. Not a good situation.

                        He is likely going to lead the last group of schools willing to play the Big $ NIL Game and lose. When KU and others leave they will backfill with more AAC and MW programs.

                        Heck there might only be a couple of schools like KSU and ISU left when all the dust settles.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Widescreen View Post

                          You willing to explain the root cause of your "hunch"?
                          No need..
                          BOOMER!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by FtwTxSooner View Post


                            Done deal...
                            Who? If the WAC 12 wanted to create a splash and make a outside the box hire, they should have offered the job to Dave Portnoy.



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                              #15
                              Originally posted by IKE93 View Post

                              No need..
                              BOOMER!
                              That's what I thought.

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                                #16
                                The Big12 knows they only have one opportunity to do this right, and by all accounts this guy should make waves, or at least big splashes. He’s gotten people to invest billions in NASCAR and Jay-Z, and even helped make the Nets relevant again as their CEO. Now all he has to do is convince big network to give them a few hundred million to watch horny toads and tortilla tech.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by BobStoopsReal View Post
                                  The Big12 knows they only have one opportunity to do this right, and by all accounts this guy should make waves, or at least big splashes. He’s gotten people to invest billions in NASCAR and Jay-Z, and even helped make the Nets relevant again as their CEO. Now all he has to do is convince big network to give them a few hundred million to watch horny toads and tortilla tech.
                                  In reality he really only has 1 job. To get Amazon to buy the Big 12 TV package for more than market value. It's hard to see why anyone else would overpay for the content and Amazon can make a lot more $ off a viewer than traditional cable so it's really his only way to come out of this looking like a hero.

                                  If they sign a TV deal for 20 million with ESPN/CBS/NBC/FOX then he failed to do much. But if they can come out of this with a TV deal in the same range or better than the PAC and ACC then he will have done pretty well all things considered.

                                  The most likely outcome is KU and more leaving and he ends up with a horrible TV deal well below 20 million per school.

                                  Supposedly a GOR has been suggested several times since OU left and each time the schools declined. That's his big problem.

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                                    #18
                                    If he can get the new Big 12 more money, more power to him. Good luck with all that.

                                    I'll be watching the SEC.

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ChpThril View Post
                                      As title says. Big 12 is targeting the COO of jay z’s roc nation as their new commissioner. Seems to me this is to appeal to a different culture. Even if he’s a white guy. Actually the guy is pretty smart. If they can get him, it’s a great move. I don’t see him taking the downgrade
                                      Originally posted by BobStoopsReal View Post
                                      The Big12 knows they only have one opportunity to do this right, and by all accounts this guy should make waves, or at least big splashes. He’s gotten people to invest billions in NASCAR and Jay-Z, and even helped make the Nets relevant again as their CEO. Now all he has to do is convince big network to give them a few hundred million to watch horny toads and tortilla tech.
                                      Slow down here ace.

                                      A man can only do so much.

                                      1. Jay-Z has a product that people want.

                                      2. NASCAR has a product that sells itself too.

                                      3. The Nets tried to copy other teams and buy a championship team….and failed miserably. Not something to brag about.

                                      Which brings us to the Big 12…without OU or Texas, the Big 12 no longer has a product worth selling.

                                      He took those other jobs because he saw a product and had a vision and a plan for how to execute it.

                                      No amount of turd polish will make what’s left of the Big 12 what it once was….20 years ago. He can’t work miracles and turn lead into gold. What’s going to be left…is a turd. It’s dying turd…the Big 12 should hire a funeral home executive or a plumber.


                                      They hired him….he will fail.

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Me And My Butt View Post



                                        Slow down here ace.

                                        A man can only do so much.

                                        1. Jay-Z has a product that people want.

                                        2. NASCAR has a product that sells itself too.

                                        3. The Nets tried to copy other teams and buy a championship team….and failed miserably. Not something to brag about.

                                        Which brings us to the Big 12…without OU or Texas, the Big 12 no longer has a product worth selling.

                                        He took those other jobs because he saw a product and had a vision and a plan for how to execute it.

                                        No amount of turd polish will make what’s left of the Big 12 what it once was….20 years ago. He can’t work miracles and turn lead into gold. What’s going to be left…is a turd. It’s dying turd…the Big 12 should hire a funeral home executive or a plumber.


                                        They hired him….he will fail.
                                        I think he could succeed in whatever the new era of NIL and transfer portal turns out to be. Will he get SEC money for TV? No, but then neither will anyone else - not even Sankey from the SEC if he took the Big 12 job. So success going forward isn't defined by what might have been in the past or what might have been if OU/texas had stayed. Success is defined by how you are able to maximize the opportunities that are realistically in front of the new Big 12.

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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by FoCoSooner View Post

                                            In reality he really only has 1 job. To get Amazon to buy the Big 12 TV package for more than market value. It's hard to see why anyone else would overpay for the content and Amazon can make a lot more $ off a viewer than traditional cable so it's really his only way to come out of this looking like a hero.

                                            If they sign a TV deal for 20 million with ESPN/CBS/NBC/FOX then he failed to do much. But if they can come out of this with a TV deal in the same range or better than the PAC and ACC then he will have done pretty well all things considered.

                                            The most likely outcome is KU and more leaving and he ends up with a horrible TV deal well below 20 million per school.

                                            Supposedly a GOR has been suggested several times since OU left and each time the schools declined. That's his big problem.
                                            You're acting like Amazon has a shit ton of money to throw around.

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by FoCoSooner View Post

                                              Supposedly a GOR has been suggested several times since OU left and each time the schools declined. That's his big problem.
                                              Really? What source? There hasn't been even a hint of a story of a new GOR. Shrills like Stewart Mandel would have been all over it.

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                                                #24
                                                All is good with said guysms. However, Hank Williams Jr before on CGD and Luke Combs has a big part as well.

                                                Let me introduce “a little south on ya”…



                                                Do NOT just exempt this. It’s true.

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                                                  #25
                                                  Another version, for youse guys that’s never seen or even comprehend, but THINK you do….




                                                  We about to put a little “South on Ya”…

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                                                    #26
                                                    Son In Law of a major mob boss and paid his ex gf to get an abortion. Seems like a class act. Good luck with all of that OSU.

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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by soonergrad View Post
                                                      Son In Law of a major mob boss and paid his ex gf to get an abortion. Seems like a class act. Good luck with all of that OSU.
                                                      Ehhhhhh…. soonergrad. Chill out, hammer..

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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by soonergrad View Post
                                                        Son In Law of a major mob boss and paid his ex gf to get an abortion. Seems like a class act. Good luck with all of that OSU.
                                                        Yormark will give Sankey an offer he can't refuse. We'll hear of a Big 12 / SEC "Alliance" within the year.

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                                                          #29
                                                          I think some of you are saying that just because he was affiliated with Jay Z, he’s gonna get a “bad rap.”
                                                          Last edited by Colonel O’Truth; 06-30-2022, 04:12 PM.

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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by HouClone View Post
                                                            Really? What source? There hasn't been even a hint of a story of a new GOR. Shrills like Stewart Mandel would have been all over it.
                                                            Pretty clear why the Big 12 and schools involved would not sign a GOR and why they would keep it quiet..

                                                            This was back when the KU AD announced they were looking out for the best interest of Kansas, not the Big 12. Clearly looking for a new conference and unwilling to sign a GOR.

                                                            Bowlsby tried to circle the wagons and schools like KU, OSU, TT, WVU were clearly looking for better options.

                                                            Until there is a GOR this new version of the Big 12 has no stability.

                                                            ISU won't be able to relax until that happens as they and KSU are the most likely schools to be left behind when the dust settles.

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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Colonel O’Truth View Post
                                                              I think some of you are saying that because that, just because he was affiliated with Jay Z, he’s gonna get a “bad rap.”
                                                              I thought it means Beyonce was doing the halftime show for the Big 12 CCG this year.

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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by FoCoSooner View Post

                                                                Pretty clear why the Big 12 and schools involved would not sign a GOR and why they would keep it quiet..

                                                                This was back when the KU AD announced they were looking out for the best interest of Kansas, not the Big 12. Clearly looking for a new conference and unwilling to sign a GOR.

                                                                Bowlsby tried to circle the wagons and schools like KU, OSU, TT, WVU were clearly looking for better options.

                                                                Until there is a GOR this new version of the Big 12 has no stability.

                                                                ISU won't be able to relax until that happens as they and KSU are the most likely schools to be left behind when the dust settles.

                                                                Any expectation of a GoR prior to the new TV deal is just flat out silly. Those two go hand in hand. Either the conference will get a tv deal to keep everyone happy enough to sign a GoR or they won’t.

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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by FtwTxSooner View Post


                                                                  Any expectation of a GoR prior to the new TV deal is just flat out silly. Those two go hand in hand. Either the conference will get a tv deal to keep everyone happy enough to sign a GoR or they won’t.
                                                                  There is nothing stopping the new Big 12 members from signing a GOR prior to the TV deal, but it would be odd. I think Bowlsby was trying to stabilize things and it backfired and showed the teams were really looking to get out.

                                                                  I have no doubt the Big 12 will have a TV deal and GOR, the real question is which teams will be in the Big 12. That is very much up in the air until the Big 10 and PAC sign their new TV deals.

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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by FoCoSooner View Post

                                                                    There is nothing stopping the new Big 12 members from signing a GOR prior to the TV deal, but it would be odd. I think Bowlsby was trying to stabilize things and it backfired and showed the teams were really looking to get out.

                                                                    I have no doubt the Big 12 will have a TV deal and GOR, the real question is which teams will be in the Big 12. That is very much up in the air until the Big 10 and PAC sign their new TV deals.
                                                                    The signing of a GoR prior to a TV deal would be more akin to a death pact than anything else.

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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Welp maybe he is commish over the new BigPac league.

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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by FtwTxSooner View Post

                                                                        The signing of a GoR prior to a TV deal would be more akin to a death pact than anything else.
                                                                        Signing a GOR would have helped stabilize the Big 12 after losing 2 valuable programs. They were years away from the end of the current deal so the real benefit is about stability not a TV deal. I can certainly see why a guy like Bowlsby, why KSU, why ISU, etc. would want to sign a GOR without a TV contract. I can also see why KU, WVU, OSU, etc would not want to sign a GOR as they wanted 2-3 years to try and figure a way out before settling like a guy trying to find a cute girl before midnight before settling for a fat girl at 2.

                                                                        It was more of a knee jerk reaction which Bowlsby was famous for. And I agree it was not likely to work out for those involved, but I can see why he tried and if all 12 members had a GOR signed right now the Big 12 would be a more stable conference than they currently are.

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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Hell of a first week for this guy if the PAC implodes and the Big 12 can pick up some scraps. He can build a legacy in a few days as the guy who saved the Big 12. hell of an opportunity, or if could all fall apart if the PAC decides to add 6 Big 12 schools and he is left leading what is currently the AAC/MW.

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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Is this new hire having second thoughts yet?

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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Is Riley scared to play in the Big 10?

                                                                              Ohio State, Michigan and Wisconsin will own him.

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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by BoomerBilly View Post
                                                                                Is Riley scared to play in the Big 10?

                                                                                Ohio State, Michigan and Wisconsin will own him.
                                                                                And Rutgers will give him a scare sometimes. That's how he rolls.

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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by SoonerHank View Post
                                                                                  Is this new hire having second thoughts yet?
                                                                                  Was thinking about this last night. While this may signal the death knell for the Big XII, it may also provide them with a chance to emerge stronger, especially if Oregon and Washington bolt to the Big 10 as rumored. The Big XII would then be in a position to poach the leftovers of the PAC. Colorado, Utah, Arizona, ASU. That gives the Big XII its own 16 team conference and while none of those teams except for Utah is going to impress anybody on the gridiron lately, they all have a pretty good history, state resources, etc...

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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by EatLeadCommie View Post

                                                                                    Was thinking about this last night. While this may signal the death knell for the Big XII, it may also provide them with a chance to emerge stronger, especially if Oregon and Washington bolt to the Big 10 as rumored. The Big XII would then be in a position to poach the leftovers of the PAC. Colorado, Utah, Arizona, ASU. That gives the Big XII its own 16 team conference and while none of those teams except for Utah is going to impress anybody on the gridiron lately, they all have a pretty good history, state resources, etc...
                                                                                    The problem is top teams would make way more in the SEC or B1g. We are headed towards 2 super conferences.

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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by EatLeadCommie View Post

                                                                                      Was thinking about this last night. While this may signal the death knell for the Big XII, it may also provide them with a chance to emerge stronger, especially if Oregon and Washington bolt to the Big 10 as rumored. The Big XII would then be in a position to poach the leftovers of the PAC. Colorado, Utah, Arizona, ASU. That gives the Big XII its own 16 team conference and while none of those teams except for Utah is going to impress anybody on the gridiron lately, they all have a pretty good history, state resources, etc...
                                                                                      That idea has apparently been shot down. The Big 10 only wanted USC/UCLA.

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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Widescreen View Post

                                                                                        That idea has apparently been shot down. The Big 10 only wanted USC/UCLA.
                                                                                        They are not expanding further for now. What happens later?

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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Yormark made sense for a Big 12 that was going to try to sell itself as a power conference with AAC programs and Baylor as its name brands. But is he the guy you hire if you know you’re going to be making pitches to Washington and Oregon in a matter of days?

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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by EatLeadCommie View Post

                                                                                            Was thinking about this last night. While this may signal the death knell for the Big XII, it may also provide them with a chance to emerge stronger, especially if Oregon and Washington bolt to the Big 10 as rumored. The Big XII would then be in a position to poach the leftovers of the PAC. Colorado, Utah, Arizona, ASU. That gives the Big XII its own 16 team conference and while none of those teams except for Utah is going to impress anybody on the gridiron lately, they all have a pretty good history, state resources, etc...
                                                                                            Washington is in a catch 22.

                                                                                            Many “want” their football program to relevant again but most have No Hope. Their AD is FS and, nevermind, too political for here.


                                                                                            OR is a little more like the SEC compared to WA. But… still. West coast shenanigans.

                                                                                            Them folks are fucked. Know it. And the hardcore, voice it.


                                                                                            Nothing like OU has to deal with. Let’s put it that way.

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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by MichSooner View Post

                                                                                              They are not expanding further for now. What happens later?
                                                                                              What happens now?
                                                                                              The PACXII.
                                                                                              One devours the other.
                                                                                              Or, the other devours the one.

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                                                                                                #48

                                                                                                Incoming Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark on expansion: 'The Big 12 is open for business'


                                                                                                Brett Yormark, the incoming commissioner of the Big 12, was introduced as the conference’s fifth commissioner during media day on Wednesday morning.

                                                                                                And he wasted no time letting the college sports world know one thing: “There is no doubt the Big 12 is open for business.”

                                                                                                On the heels of USC and UCLA’s decision to join the Big Ten, Yormark highlighted his vision for the Big 12 that includes the league eyeing additional expansion. Texas and Oklahoma are departing the conference, and it was announced in 2021 that BYU, Cincinnati, Central Florida and Houston would join the Big 12.

                                                                                                Various reports have indicated that the Big 12 in recent weeks has talked with Pac-12 schools Arizona State, Arizona, Colorado and Utah about them joining.

                                                                                                In his first media session, Yormark was clear he'd be aggressive in building the Big 12's value

                                                                                                “Conference composition is once again at the forefront of college athletics,” Yormark said in his opening remarks. “As such, I have been very involved with the stakeholders both inside and outside the Big 12 regarding our path forward and opportunities to grow both the Big 12 brand and business.”

                                                                                                Yormark emphasized that the Big 12 will not add schools without them helping the league's brand and value.

                                                                                                “Exploration and optionality is at the forefront of what we are focused on," Yormark said. "Anything considered must be additive and not dilutive."

                                                                                                When asked about the possibility of Pac-12 schools joining the Big 12 conference, Yormark did not share specifics of the conversations occurring. But he said there's interest out there about potentially joining the Big 12.

                                                                                                “It’s fair to say I’ve received a lot of phone calls, a lot of interest,” Yormark said. “People understand the direction of the Big 12, and we’re exploring those levels of interest. Nothing is imminent, but we’re working hard to make sure that we position the Big 12 in the best possible way on a go-forward basis.”

                                                                                                Outside of realignment, Yormark expressed his desire to make the Big 12 brand more national, and that he wanted to position that brand with a younger audience by “diversifying some of the things” the Big 12 does.


                                                                                                https://sports.yahoo.com/incoming-bi...143240017.html

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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  If that's true Youmark, then you better be talking to USF and Memphis.

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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Mixer! View Post
                                                                                                    If that's true Youmark, then you better be talking to USF and Memphis.
                                                                                                    Mogadishu on the Mississippi?? Are you fucking high?

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