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    NU @ OU 9/18 11am Fox



    And of course, the Nebraska game is a rooster kickoff as well, though the pregame show with Bob will be there
    Last edited by FtwTxSooner; 05-27-2021, 12:42 PM.

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      Lots of our recruits are coming for the Nebraska game weekend. This really puts the screws to the West Coast players and the Mountain Time Zone players who want to visit OU.

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        #4
        Originally posted by MichSooner View Post
        Lots of our recruits are coming for the Nebraska game weekend. This really puts the screws to the West Coast players and the Mountain Time Zone players who want to visit OU.
        If they were really serious about OU football, they would opt out their SR years of high school.

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          Originally posted by MichSooner View Post
          Lots of our recruits are coming for the Nebraska game weekend. This really puts the screws to the West Coast players and the Mountain Time Zone players who want to visit OU.
          Don't worry, it's not as if Oklahoma is in a conference (or division for that matter) that will place OU in the 11am kickoff slot 8 out of a total 12 games...



          Normally, I think Nebraska has averaged something like 6 of its regular-season games as played in the noon tv time slot, could that hurt in recruiting..?

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            #6
            Originally posted by MichSooner View Post
            Lots of our recruits are coming for the Nebraska game weekend. This really puts the screws to the West Coast players and the Mountain Time Zone players who want to visit OU.
            Are there no flights on Friday?

            This is the Fox game of the week. Be happy about that.
            Give me Liberty, or give me Death!

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              #7
              Originally posted by MichSooner View Post
              Lots of our recruits are coming for the Nebraska game weekend. This really puts the screws to the West Coast players and the Mountain Time Zone players who want to visit OU.
              And of course it will be hot and muggy and if its not it will be rainy day.
              On a bright note... OU has better depth so a hot day might help

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                #8
                Originally posted by Stinger_1066 View Post

                Are there no flights on Friday?

                This is the Fox game of the week. Be happy about that.
                Not when your high school game is Friday night and you’re coming from far away. 11 am kickoff is killer for anyone that is more than a 3-4 hour drive away to get to when you have to play Friday night.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by RockFlagandEagle View Post

                  If they were really serious about OU football, they would opt out their SR years of high school.
                  Fortunately most people don't build their lives around OU football. And that includes most all top college football recruits. But without doubt 11 am kickoffs are tough on recruits that have to travel 3-4 hours.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SoonerSpock View Post

                    Fortunately most people don't build their lives around OU football. And that includes most all top college football recruits.
                    Then we don't want those recruits. If they aren't willing to skip their high school games and get up at 2am to get to Norman, they don't have the right commitment to be a Sooner.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by kopp0e View Post

                      Don't worry, it's not as if Oklahoma is in a conference (or division for that matter) that will place OU in the 11am kickoff slot 8 out of a total 12 games...



                      Normally, I think Nebraska has averaged something like 6 of its regular-season games as played in the noon tv time slot, could that hurt in recruiting..?
                      8 was a lot. It seems like the Big 10 teams play a lot of their games at 11 a.m. Ohio State played 7 games in 2019 at 11 a.m. For comparison, OU played 5 games at 11 a.m. in 2019.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by OU48A View Post
                        And of course it will be hot and muggy and if its not it will be rainy day.
                        On a bright note... OU has better depth so a hot day might help
                        Do you really think we need the weather to help us beat Nebraska? LOL

                        I was hoping this would be a night game. Unfortunately, Nebraska sucks and they are not ready for prime time.

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                          #13
                          If it is a warm summer, the prime corn harvesting will be taking place during that time! Has anyone thought of that and does anyone care!?!?

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                            #14
                            I hope it’s 77-0 going into the third quarter. Haven’t seen one of those in a while.

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by SoonerHank View Post

                                Do you really think we need the weather to help us beat Nebraska? LOL

                                I was hoping this would be a night game. Unfortunately, Nebraska sucks and they are not ready for prime time.
                                I was just try to find something positive about the 11 AM game.

                                The action by the network in light of the following statement only show why OU needs to leave the Big 12 when they couldn't care less about how this impacts OU and its fans.

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                                  #17
                                  WTF? I was going to attend, just assuming it would be a night game. Fuck that. At least OU48A will stay warm and be able to get home before dark.

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SoonerBornSoonerBrett View Post
                                    Perhaps Joe C can remember all of these frustrations with rooster kickoffs next time he and anybody else in power discuss conference affiliation or TV contracts.

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by auto View Post
                                      WTF? I was going to attend, just assuming it would be a night game. Fuck that. At least OU48A will stay warm and be able to get home before dark.
                                      How many more times are you going to lie about what I would like to see for OU and the vast majority of its fans...I think you have some serious mental and emotional conditions.

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by 49cent View Post

                                        Perhaps Joe C can remember all of these frustrations with rooster kickoffs next time he and anybody else in power discuss conference affiliation or TV contracts.
                                        It may be that the network has a long term goal of making OU so dissatisfied with the Big 12 that OU will be happy to leave...
                                        There have been so many home 11 AM games that some OU fans are starting to opt out of season ticket purchases

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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by OU48A View Post
                                          How many more times are you going to lie about what I would like to see for OU and the vast majority of its fans...I think you have some serious mental and emotional conditions.
                                          Until you never whine about cold and night games under the guise of older fans. Your bed time show is almost on, the 6:00 news, hurry along now, don't forget your Depends before bed.

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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Widescreen View Post

                                            Then we don't want those recruits. If they aren't willing to skip their high school games and get up at 2am to get to Norman, they don't have the right commitment to be a Sooner.
                                            So if those players quit on their teams say in a playoff race, to go to a rooster kick as some call it, by ditching the team, how does that bode well for OU..?
                                            Is that player then considered selfish..? In an era of NIL coming up would that hurt potential hometown advertisements of the "local kid" that went to OU..?

                                            Originally posted by OU48A View Post

                                            It may be that the network has a long term goal of making OU so dissatisfied with the Big 12 that OU will be happy to leave...
                                            There have been so many home 11 AM games that some OU fans are starting to opt out of season ticket purchases
                                            Umm which conference you want OU in again, FOX is the majority partner in 3rd tier with B1G, which stuck Nebraska on at 11:00am 8x a few years ago...
                                            Yes, this isn't pleasant but it clearly states XII tried to work with Oklahoma to get a better spot, but FOX only has 2 mainstream channels: FOX/ FS1 now...

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by kopp0e View Post

                                              So if those players quit on their teams say in a playoff race, to go to a rooster kick as some call it, by ditching the team, how does that bode well for OU..?
                                              Is that player then considered selfish..? In an era of NIL coming up would that hurt potential hometown advertisements of the "local kid" that went to OU..?



                                              Umm which conference you want OU in again, FOX is the majority partner in 3rd tier with B1G, which stuck Nebraska on at 11:00am 8x a few years ago...
                                              Yes, this isn't pleasant but it clearly states XII tried to work with Oklahoma to get a better spot, but FOX only has 2 mainstream channels: FOX/ FS1 now...
                                              What I usually want to know is which games are so fucking important that day that they take precedence over ours. Granted, OU isn’t the only program that wants be on later time slots and they can’t bow down to us all the time... I’ve still seen some shittastic clunkers on primetime through the years when OU got the double high hard one (11).

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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by 49cent View Post

                                                Perhaps Joe C can remember all of these frustrations with rooster kickoffs next time he and anybody else in power discuss conference affiliation or TV contracts.
                                                It seems like the OU-FOX relationship is pretty strained.

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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by 49cent View Post

                                                  What I usually want to know is which games are so fucking important that day that they take precedence over ours. Granted, OU isn’t the only program that wants be on later time slots and they can’t bow down to us all the time... I’ve still seen some shittastic clunkers on primetime through the years when OU got the double high hard one (11).
                                                  The OU game IS taking precedence. Noon is the premier match up time slot for Fox.

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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by 49cent View Post

                                                    What I usually want to know is which games are so fucking important that day that they take precedence over ours. Granted, OU isn’t the only program that wants be on later time slots and they can’t bow down to us all the time... I’ve still seen some shittastic clunkers on primetime through the years when OU got the double high hard one (11).
                                                    Fox and ESPN take turns selecting which weeks to have the #1 pick. This year was ESPN's turn to select first. ESPN picked OU/Texas week for their first selection. Fox then picked this week. So, to Fox, OU/NU is the biggest game out there not only for the week, but 2nd to OU/TX for biggest game in the conference this season.

                                                    Big Noon Kickoff is a big deal for Fox.

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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by 49cent View Post

                                                      What I usually want to know is which games are so fucking important that day that they take precedence over ours. Granted, OU isn’t the only program that wants be on later time slots and they can’t bow down to us all the time... I’ve still seen some shittastic clunkers on primetime through the years when OU got the double high hard one (11).
                                                      Well in the case of FOX, there's pretty much over the air FOX & cable/ satelite FS1, so that 2 slots for 11am/ 2 for 2:30/ 2 for 5:30...
                                                      Sometimes FOX will air a prime time game at 8pm, but not many, so more likely 1 slot most weeks but sometmes (FS1) 2 games...



                                                      Ironically, September 2nd the 8pm game of Ohio State & Minnesota on a Thursday/ September 4th also has LSU & UCLA at 8pm...
                                                      You'd think it can be done: Oklahoma v Nebraska to at least be played at 2:30 if not 8pm but I don't know who plays later that day...

                                                      Maybe FOX will toss OU an 8pm bone next year in 2022 when the Sooners visit Nebraska, since that game will be a B1G game..?
                                                      Although I guess ESPN could look to pick up the game as well, but a lot depends on how well the Husker season ends this year...

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                                                        Big Noon kickoff is national TV though. This is a shitty Big 12 contract problem.

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                                                          #29
                                                          Is this the second or third straight year we've planned a big recruiting weekend to show GFOMS at its craziest, then gotten an 11 am kick?

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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by mbm422 View Post

                                                            The OU game IS taking precedence. Noon is the premier match up time slot for Fox.
                                                            Premier timeslot for douchebag losers. FML.

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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by auto View Post

                                                              Until you never whine about cold and night games under the guise of older fans. Your bed time show is almost on, the 6:00 news, hurry along now, don't forget your Depends before bed.
                                                              You just are not a emotionally stable person. You have got to be a female

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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by SoopaSooner View Post
                                                                Big Noon kickoff is national TV though. This is a shitty Big 12 contract problem.
                                                                Shitty conferences have shitty tv contracts...

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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Joe C should work to move this game to the Friday after thanksgiving

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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by SoonerHank View Post
                                                                    Joe C should work to move this game to the Friday after thanksgiving
                                                                    That would only work if we are in the same conference.... which after this seems more likely because it underscores the weakness of the Big 12 and the lack of control OU has.
                                                                    OU would make a lot more money too.

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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Stinger_1066 View Post

                                                                      Are there no flights on Friday?

                                                                      This is the Fox game of the week. Be happy about that.
                                                                      There are flights Friday if they skip their Friday night game which, if played in California, is over about 11:30 central time/9:30 Pacific. Then, wearing their high school gear, they go straight to LAX to board the midnight departure flight to OKC. Do any flights depart LAX at midnight bound for OKC? The recruit reaches Norman in the third quarter after which Rattler and Caleb Williams have made their appearances and the scout team is playing mop up duty with the fans heading for College Corner or the parking lot.
                                                                      Last edited by MichSooner; 05-27-2021, 07:50 PM.

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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Widescreen View Post

                                                                        Then we don't want those recruits. If they aren't willing to skip their high school games and get up at 2am to get to Norman, they don't have the right commitment to be a Sooner.
                                                                        Well, we do want those recruits. And we need those recruits. They have official visits with OU, Bama, Clemson, Ohio State plus another top team already locked in. And they are most likely going to make up their minds after their officials. Maybe a couple can show up for Western Carolina or Taco Tech if they are still available to OU after being wined and dined by Saban, Dabo, and Day.

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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by HouClone View Post

                                                                          8 was a lot. It seems like the Big 10 teams play a lot of their games at 11 a.m. Ohio State played 7 games in 2019 at 11 a.m. For comparison, OU played 5 games at 11 a.m. in 2019.
                                                                          These games start at 11 AM our time. It is noon for them in the eastern time zone....another hour to tailgate, sleep in, hang out before kickoff.
                                                                          Last edited by MichSooner; 05-27-2021, 07:51 PM.

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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by MichSooner View Post

                                                                            11 AM our time. It is noon for them....another hour to tailgate, sleep in, hang out before kickoff.
                                                                            Yep and that extra hour of travel time makes a lot of difference for our fans and recruits who have several hour's of traveling.

                                                                            You would think the Big 12 would want to help give its best possibility of winning a national title a big recruiting weekend. OU NOT winning national titles because of reasons like this can only help cause more OU people to want out of what this conference has become.

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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by OU48A View Post

                                                                              Yep and that extra hour of travel time makes a lot of difference for our fans and recruits who have several hour's of traveling.

                                                                              You would think the Big 12 would want to help give its best possibility of winning a national title a big recruiting weekend. OU NOT winning national titles because of reasons like this can only help cause more OU people to want out of what this conference has become.
                                                                              You want us to go to the Big 10 where these early kickoffs are the norm. Ohio State plays more of them than we do. We'd have the same TV partner that we have now, except that TV partner would have even more influence over our league.

                                                                              It's time to switch your preference from Big Ten to SEC.

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                                                                                https://footballscoop.com/news/oklahoma-joe-castiglione-bitterly-disappointed-fox-11-am-kickoffs-big-noon-kickoff



                                                                                Thursday's announcement followed an interesting bit of news that came out earlier this week. On Tuesday, the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal reported the Big 12 approached ESPN and Fox about re-opening negotiations early, and both networks declined. There could be any number of non-Big 12 specific reasons why those networks would do so, but normally when an entity has a highly-valued property under contract and that property opens the conversation about extending their relationship, the entity signs eagerly. Think the Kansas City Chiefs locking down Patrick Mahomes to a 10-year contract before his rookie deal expired.

                                                                                In the past 48 hours we've seen Fox turn down the opportunity to extend its relationship with the Big 12, and now the Big 12's marquee program has put Fox publicly on blast. It can be groan inducing to see sports executives talk about their sponsors as "partners," but that really is true when it comes to TV deals. Both the conference and the networks win when people watch Big 12 games, and so both entities should be similarly invested in the product.

                                                                                But the events of this week may cause Fox to rethink how invested it really wants to be in Big 12 football.

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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by camel at sea View Post

                                                                                  You want us to go to the Big 10 where these early kickoffs are the norm. Ohio State plays more of them than we do. We'd have the same TV partner that we have now, except that TV partner would have even more influence over our league.

                                                                                  It's time to switch your preference from Big Ten to SEC.
                                                                                  The answer is the same for any conference...negotiate a contract that prevents any one university from carrying an unequal share of the burden.

                                                                                  The B1G and SEC have the power and other brand's to do that...the Big 12 not nearly as much

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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by OU48A View Post
                                                                                    The answer is the same for any conference...negotiate a contract that prevents any one university from carrying an unequal share of the burden.

                                                                                    The B1G and SEC have the power and other brand's to do that...the Big 12 not nearly as much
                                                                                    Ohio State played seven early kickoffs in 2019 and they're hosting Oregon at 11 a.m. this year. The Big Ten isn't helping out the Buckeyes on this issue anymore than the Big 12 is helping out Oklahoma.

                                                                                    It's a FOX issue, not a conference issue. If you want to avoid a ton of early kicks, don't be in a league that gives FOX marquee inventory.

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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by camel at sea View Post

                                                                                      Ohio State played seven early kickoffs in 2019 and they're hosting Oregon at 11 a.m. this year. The Big Ten isn't helping out the Buckeyes on this issue anymore than the Big 12 is helping out Oklahoma.

                                                                                      It's a FOX issue, not a conference issue. If you want to avoid a ton of early kicks, don't be in a league that gives FOX marquee inventory.
                                                                                      Its still and issue of the contract that give Fox this power....The contracts will soon be renegotiated...Lets see if they still have this power before we say where OU should or should not go...except for staying in the Big 12 looks less likely tonight.

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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by OU48A View Post
                                                                                        Its still and issue of the contract that give Fox this power....The contracts will soon be renegotiated...Lets see if they still have this power before we say where OU should or should not go...except for staying in the Big 12 looks less likely tonight.
                                                                                        The Big 12 is more likely to get out of bed with FOX than the Big Ten is.

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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by camel at sea View Post

                                                                                          The Big 12 is more likely to get out of bed with FOX than the Big Ten is.
                                                                                          Probably...but the B1G is a lot more likely to have more favorable terms in its next contract than the Big 12 could ever muster

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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Tobias 2.0 View Post
                                                                                            In the past 48 hours we've seen Fox turn down the opportunity to extend its relationship with the Big 12, and now the Big 12's marquee program has put Fox publicly on blast. It can be groan inducing to see sports executives talk about their sponsors as "partners," but that really is true when it comes to TV deals. Both the conference and the networks win when people watch Big 12 games, and so both entities should be similarly invested in the product.

                                                                                            But the events of this week may cause Fox to rethink how invested it really wants to be in Big 12 football.

                                                                                            That does it. We have no choice but to win a Natty this year. We'll see how badly Fox wants us then.

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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by OU48A View Post
                                                                                              Probably...but the B1G is a lot more likely to have more favorable terms in its next contract than the Big 12 could ever muster
                                                                                              Current landscape of kickoff times in the Big Ten suggests otherwise.

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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by MichSooner View Post

                                                                                                Well, we do want those recruits. And we need those recruits. They have official visits with OU, Bama, Clemson, Ohio State plus another top team already locked in. And they are most likely going to make up their minds after their officials. Maybe a couple can show up for Western Carolina or Taco Tech if they are still available to OU after being wined and dined by Saban, Dabo, and Day.
                                                                                                It was a joke

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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Yeah, 11 CT is a big slot on Fox. Every one of our afternoon games is garbage. But if Fox insists on ignoring the Big 12 flagship’s requests for its recruits, fans, and local businesses, I don’t know if that’s going to pay off for them in the long run.

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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by RockFlagandEagle View Post

                                                                                                    If they were really serious about OU football, they would opt out their SR years of high school.
                                                                                                    TRUTH

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