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    fOSU and USC ranked ahead of OU in SI's Way-Too-Early Top 25

    Texas not ranked.

    It’s always guesswork projecting next season’s college football top 25 this early, but it’s now more haphazard than ever. The rearranging of coaches and quarterbacks (not to mention other players) has turned this offseason into a festival of fluidity.

    Twenty percent of the Power 5 coaching jobs have changed hands, and Jim Harbaugh may yet trigger a January domino effect. At least one-third of the 65 starting quarterbacks will be different, with more transfers likely in the coming weeks.

    So with that as a backdrop, here is the Way-Too-Early, Way-Too-Unsure top 25 for the 2022 season.


    1. Alabama


    Shocking, I know. But when you start with the reigning Heisman Trophy winner (quarterback Bryce Young), the nation’s best defensive player (linebacker Will Anderson Jr.) and the GOAT (Nick Saban), that’s a pretty good foundation. The rest of the team will be ridiculously talented as well, as usual.
    2. Ohio State


    Last we saw of the Buckeyes, quarterback C.J. Stroud was throwing for 573 yards and six touchdowns, Jaxon Smith-Njigba was breaking a bowl record with 347 receiving yards, and Marvin Harrison Jr. was nabbing three TD catches. They’ll all be back in 2022, and Jim Knowles arrives from Oklahoma State to shore up the defense. Buckeyes should be loaded.

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    3. Georgia


    The NFL will have a huge influx of Bulldogs this offseason, especially from their vicious defense. But an abundance of talent remains, thanks to Kirby Smart’s stacking of monster recruiting classes. Will QB Stetson Bennett actually start the next season No. 1 on the Georgia depth chart, or will he be demoted once again?
    4. Clemson


    This will be a fascinating season for the Tigers, with Dabo Swinney overhauling his previously super stable coaching staff after losing both coordinators and others. But the player roster is stocked with guys who gained valuable experience in 2021 and should be improved in ’22. Quarterback D.J. Uiagalelei must make strides after a disappointing season, but there is an intriguing Plan B in freshman Cade Klubnik.
    5. Utah


    The Utes lose a few key contributors off their Rose Bowl team, but more are coming back. Running back Tavion Thomas is returning after a 21-touchdown season, and so is quarterback Cameron Rising. The defense should again be nasty. They open with a winnable game at Florida that could be a springboard into a big season.
    6. Texas A&M


    With Haynes King returning and Max Johnson arriving from LSU, the quarterback position should be in better hands. Most of the rest of the lineup is in good shape, thanks to several years of Jimbo Fisher’s recruiting. How quickly will the nation’s No. 1 freshman class make an impact? The nonconference schedule is manageable, with Miami coming to College Station.

    7. Michigan


    The losses from the 2021 Playoff team are major, especially on defense. And, again, we’ll see whether Harbaugh is still coaching the Wolverines in the coming days. But if he is, there is a good nucleus of skill-position talent to build around, starting with the quarterback tandem of Cade McNamara and J.J. McCarthy. The nonconference schedule should provide little opposition.
    8. Wake Forest


    The Demon Deacons return a loaded roster after just the second 11-win season in school history. Quarterback Sam Hartman should start the season as a Heisman candidate leading what could be the nation’s most explosive offense outside of Alabama and Ohio State. If the defense improves, this could be the nontraditional breakthrough team. Clemson, Wake’s annual problem, must come to Winston-Salem in 2022.
    9. Notre Dame


    Marcus Freeman takes on a tough schedule, with an opener at Ohio State and games against Clemson, BYU and USC. He will need a quarterback to step up, with Tyler Buchner the leading candidate as of now. But there is talent all over the roster after years of excellent recruiting.
    10. Oklahoma State


    The Cowboys tend to be a program that does its best work when little is expected of it, so perhaps this is an inflated ranking. But Spencer Sanders played like a superstar in the Fiesta Bowl in leading a thrilling comeback to beat Notre Dame and could be poised for a huge season. He’ll need to be that good in 2022, because Oklahoma State will probably take a step backward defensively after losing Knowles and many of its top players on that side of the ball.
    11. Michigan State


    Losing Kenneth Walker III’s production hurts, but there are other weapons on hand. Payton Thorne had an excellent sophomore season at QB, and Wisconsin transfer Jalen Berger arrives with a chance to fill Walker’s shoes and reenergize his career. The defense returns many of its key parts, and let’s face it—the secondary can only get better.

    12. Baylor


    The Bears had a veteran team in 2021 and will have to retool in some areas, but trust in Dave Aranda, whose second season was National Coach of the Year material. His defenses will always be solid. Gerry Bohanon should take another step forward in his second season as the starting QB. Key early game: a trip to Provo to face BYU.
    13. USC


    The Lincoln Riley Effect should be immediate .With both Kedon Slovis and Jaxson Dart transferring, the door is wide open for mega-talent Caleb Williams to follow Riley to Norman to Los Angeles and take over the quarterback position. (Fellow Oklahoma evacuee Mario Williams may well be coming with him as a big-time receiver.) Beyond the talent infusion, Riley should have a cleaner team in terms of penalties and turnover margin than what we saw from the Trojans in the Clay Helton Era.
    14. Arkansas


    If Sam Pittman keeps this program on its current growth curve, the Razorbacks could finish even higher. There are some big shoes to fill on defense, but linebacker Bumper Pool is coming back for a fifth year. Dual-threat KJ Jefferson returns at QB and powerful Raheim Sanders could be a 1,000-yard rusher. The issue could be the schedule: The Hogs open at home against Cincinnati and visit BYU in mid-October, in addition to the usual SEC mayhem.
    15. Oklahoma


    Brent Venables finally takes on a head-coaching role, and he’s assembled a very good staff. He should dramatically improve the defensive product. But the offensive losses are significant. Dillon Gabriel arrives to fill Caleb Williams’s spot at QB; while he was good at UCF, there would be some drop-off at that position. Gabriel's pass efficiency rating has ranged between 156 and 159 in three college seasons, while Williams registered a 170 as a true freshman and is a better runner. Two receivers have transferred and running back Kennedy Brooks is going pro.
    16. Tennessee


    Josh Heupel hit the ground running, recording a winning season in his first year on the job and rejuvenating a downtrodden fan base. Transfer QB Hendon Hooker flourished under Heupel and should have another big season with 1,000-yard receiver Cedric Tillman coming back. The running game is in capable hands as well. A defense that allowed 29 points per game needs to make strides in 2022.
    17. Wisconsin


    The Badgers tend to reload defensively instead of rebuild, and running back Braelon Allen is a star in the making. But they need QB Graham Mertz to make a lot of progress if they want to return to winning the Big Ten West after two years of watching someone else from that division go to Indianapolis.
    18. Houston


    Dana Holgorsen got his career back on track in a big way in 2021, taking the Cougars to 12 wins. He should have the roster to win the American Athletic Conference in ’22, though there are some defensive holes to fill. In QB Clayton Tune, running back Alton McCaskill and receiver Nathaniel Dell, Houston has star power that should light up the scoreboard.
    19. North Carolina State


    Dave Doeren has built a consistent winner, with last year’s 9–3 team among his best. Plenty of key parts from that group return, starting with quarterback Devin Leary (3,400 passing yards and 35 touchdowns in 2021). Linebacker Payton Wilson, who missed most of 2021, is coming back as well to anchor the defense. Between Clemson, Wake Forest and NC State, the ACC will tilt heavily toward the Atlantic Division again.
    20. Oregon


    The Ducks are losing plenty from their Pac-12 North championship team, including head coach Mario Cristobal. But Cristobal signed three straight top-10 recruiting classes from 2019 to ’21, so there is talent on hand waiting for an opportunity. Noah Sewell might be the nation’s best inside linebacker and will be the centerpiece of Dan Lanning’s defense. Mercurial quarterback Bo Nix arrives from Auburn, where he made a lot of things happen (some good, some bad).

    21. Kentucky


    With two 10-win seasons in the last three, the Wildcats have arrived as a consistent contender. They should keep that momentum going in 2022, with quarterback Will Levis returning and leading rusher Chris Rodriguez Jr. expected to do the same (big-play receiver Wan’Dale Robinson has declared for the draft). There will be some retooling on defense. Kentucky has been active in the transfer portal, both in terms of who’s coming and who’s going, but Mark Stoops is bringing in the highest-rated recruiting class in school history and some of those freshmen could have an immediate impact.
    22. Iowa


    The Hawkeyes are here because they’re simply too consistent to count out, piling up winning seasons year after year under Kirk Ferentz. They need improvement at quarterback and lose the best center in college football, but the defense should again be stout—especially after safety Riley Moss announced that he will stay in school.
    23. Cincinnati


    The Bearcats finally broke up the large band of seniors who built the program into a power, but they’ve held on to Luke Fickell. (So far. Again, we’ll see whether there is going to be an opening at Michigan.) As long as he’s there, Cincinnati will be good. But there are big personnel losses on both sides of the ball. Fickell has always said he wants an offensive line-driven program, and this is the chance to prove that. That’s where the greatest experience lies.
    24. Purdue


    We got a glimpse of what the Boilermakers will be without NFL talents David Bell and George Karlaftis in the Music City Bowl—and it was pretty good. QB Aidan O’Connell (more than 5,700 career passing yards) is coming back, and Jeff Brohm never runs out of receivers. Losing defensive coordinator Brad Lambert is a blow, but Brohm has gotten more involved on that side of the ball and should maintain the same style of play defensively.
    25. Coastal Carolina


    With quarterback Grayson McCall famously declaring, “I piss teal,” in announcing his return for another season, expectations remain high for the Chanticleers. They’re 22–3 the past two seasons, since McCall became the starter. There will need to be a major rebuilding job on the defensive side and at receiver, however.
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    #2
    Whoever put this together knows nothing about football…SC should ranked higher..
    BOOMER!

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      #3
      Get ready for an ESPN/USC lovefest 2.0

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        #4
        Beyond the talent infusion, Riley should have a cleaner team in terms of penalties and turnover margin than what we saw from the Trojans in the Clay Helton Era.
        Tell me you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

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          #5
          Originally posted by RockFlagandEagle View Post

          Tell me you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
          We were sloppier last year than any year I can remember

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            #6
            Dumb polls to fill the doldrums of the offseason and drive clicks

            Michigan was unranked preseason and made the playoff

            I’ll bet this sportswriter a substantial sum that OU finishes higher ranked than 18 and in front of at least one of fOSU and Baylor

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              #7
              Man .. they're all sooooo desperate to recover the west coast market.

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                #8
                I didn't know Pat Forde was still guessing about college football. I'm pretty sure he posts in game threads here.

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                  #9
                  Glancing at their schedule I see SUC going 9-3. Maybe 10-2. The PAC12 is just a shit conference. As much as I’d love to see TBOW lay an egg in year one, I doubt it happens.

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                    #10
                    Sounds about right for OU. Hopefully we can battle our way up the standings instead of falling down as happening in many past years being rated too high pre-season.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BobStoopsReal View Post
                      Glancing at their schedule I see SUC going 9-3. Maybe 10-2. The PAC12 is just a shit conference. As much as I’d love to see TBOW lay an egg in year one, I doubt it happens.
                      usc won 4 games last year and half their best players transferred.. playing with a new QB and a bunch of unproven freshman ‘snake eyes’ will be lucky to win 5 games ..
                      BOOMER!

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                        #12
                        fosu is kind of a strange one... basically saying since in the past when everyone thinks they will do poorly they over preform and finish higher than expected, so since most think they will suck this year he is going to rank them 10th.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by IKE93 View Post

                          usc won 4 games last year and half their best players transferred.. playing with a new QB and a bunch of unproven freshman ‘snake eyes’ will be lucky to win 5 games ..
                          BOOMER!
                          I wouldn’t be mad lol. That’s the only reason I would have concern if I’m CW. Sure you get Mario Williams, but why would you want to go to a rebuild when you’re done in two years? Putting way too much faith in Muleshit.

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                            #14
                            The praise of USC is overdone, and people will soon see it for themselves, but at the moment everyone outside of our fanbase has written OU's obituary. Better get used to it. Until the team hits the field and starts winning, it's gonna be this way. I like to think that it's eating up the players more than it is the fans.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Stinger_1066 View Post
                              Texas not ranked.

                              It’s always guesswork projecting next season’s college football top 25 this early, but it’s now more haphazard than ever. The rearranging of coaches and quarterbacks (not to mention other players) has turned this offseason into a festival of fluidity.

                              Twenty percent of the Power 5 coaching jobs have changed hands, and Jim Harbaugh may yet trigger a January domino effect. At least one-third of the 65 starting quarterbacks will be different, with more transfers likely in the coming weeks.

                              So with that as a backdrop, here is the Way-Too-Early, Way-Too-Unsure top 25 for the 2022 season.


                              1. Alabama


                              Shocking, I know. But when you start with the reigning Heisman Trophy winner (quarterback Bryce Young), the nation’s best defensive player (linebacker Will Anderson Jr.) and the GOAT (Nick Saban), that’s a pretty good foundation. The rest of the team will be ridiculously talented as well, as usual.
                              2. Ohio State


                              Last we saw of the Buckeyes, quarterback C.J. Stroud was throwing for 573 yards and six touchdowns, Jaxon Smith-Njigba was breaking a bowl record with 347 receiving yards, and Marvin Harrison Jr. was nabbing three TD catches. They’ll all be back in 2022, and Jim Knowles arrives from Oklahoma State to shore up the defense. Buckeyes should be loaded.

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                              3. Georgia


                              The NFL will have a huge influx of Bulldogs this offseason, especially from their vicious defense. But an abundance of talent remains, thanks to Kirby Smart’s stacking of monster recruiting classes. Will QB Stetson Bennett actually start the next season No. 1 on the Georgia depth chart, or will he be demoted once again?
                              4. Clemson


                              This will be a fascinating season for the Tigers, with Dabo Swinney overhauling his previously super stable coaching staff after losing both coordinators and others. But the player roster is stocked with guys who gained valuable experience in 2021 and should be improved in ’22. Quarterback D.J. Uiagalelei must make strides after a disappointing season, but there is an intriguing Plan B in freshman Cade Klubnik.
                              5. Utah


                              The Utes lose a few key contributors off their Rose Bowl team, but more are coming back. Running back Tavion Thomas is returning after a 21-touchdown season, and so is quarterback Cameron Rising. The defense should again be nasty. They open with a winnable game at Florida that could be a springboard into a big season.
                              6. Texas A&M


                              With Haynes King returning and Max Johnson arriving from LSU, the quarterback position should be in better hands. Most of the rest of the lineup is in good shape, thanks to several years of Jimbo Fisher’s recruiting. How quickly will the nation’s No. 1 freshman class make an impact? The nonconference schedule is manageable, with Miami coming to College Station.

                              7. Michigan


                              The losses from the 2021 Playoff team are major, especially on defense. And, again, we’ll see whether Harbaugh is still coaching the Wolverines in the coming days. But if he is, there is a good nucleus of skill-position talent to build around, starting with the quarterback tandem of Cade McNamara and J.J. McCarthy. The nonconference schedule should provide little opposition.
                              8. Wake Forest


                              The Demon Deacons return a loaded roster after just the second 11-win season in school history. Quarterback Sam Hartman should start the season as a Heisman candidate leading what could be the nation’s most explosive offense outside of Alabama and Ohio State. If the defense improves, this could be the nontraditional breakthrough team. Clemson, Wake’s annual problem, must come to Winston-Salem in 2022.
                              9. Notre Dame


                              Marcus Freeman takes on a tough schedule, with an opener at Ohio State and games against Clemson, BYU and USC. He will need a quarterback to step up, with Tyler Buchner the leading candidate as of now. But there is talent all over the roster after years of excellent recruiting.
                              10. Oklahoma State


                              The Cowboys tend to be a program that does its best work when little is expected of it, so perhaps this is an inflated ranking. But Spencer Sanders played like a superstar in the Fiesta Bowl in leading a thrilling comeback to beat Notre Dame and could be poised for a huge season. He’ll need to be that good in 2022, because Oklahoma State will probably take a step backward defensively after losing Knowles and many of its top players on that side of the ball.
                              11. Michigan State


                              Losing Kenneth Walker III’s production hurts, but there are other weapons on hand. Payton Thorne had an excellent sophomore season at QB, and Wisconsin transfer Jalen Berger arrives with a chance to fill Walker’s shoes and reenergize his career. The defense returns many of its key parts, and let’s face it—the secondary can only get better.

                              12. Baylor


                              The Bears had a veteran team in 2021 and will have to retool in some areas, but trust in Dave Aranda, whose second season was National Coach of the Year material. His defenses will always be solid. Gerry Bohanon should take another step forward in his second season as the starting QB. Key early game: a trip to Provo to face BYU.
                              13. USC


                              The Lincoln Riley Effect should be immediate .With both Kedon Slovis and Jaxson Dart transferring, the door is wide open for mega-talent Caleb Williams to follow Riley to Norman to Los Angeles and take over the quarterback position. (Fellow Oklahoma evacuee Mario Williams may well be coming with him as a big-time receiver.) Beyond the talent infusion, Riley should have a cleaner team in terms of penalties and turnover margin than what we saw from the Trojans in the Clay Helton Era.
                              14. Arkansas


                              If Sam Pittman keeps this program on its current growth curve, the Razorbacks could finish even higher. There are some big shoes to fill on defense, but linebacker Bumper Pool is coming back for a fifth year. Dual-threat KJ Jefferson returns at QB and powerful Raheim Sanders could be a 1,000-yard rusher. The issue could be the schedule: The Hogs open at home against Cincinnati and visit BYU in mid-October, in addition to the usual SEC mayhem.
                              15. Oklahoma


                              Brent Venables finally takes on a head-coaching role, and he’s assembled a very good staff. He should dramatically improve the defensive product. But the offensive losses are significant. Dillon Gabriel arrives to fill Caleb Williams’s spot at QB; while he was good at UCF, there would be some drop-off at that position. Gabriel's pass efficiency rating has ranged between 156 and 159 in three college seasons, while Williams registered a 170 as a true freshman and is a better runner. Two receivers have transferred and running back Kennedy Brooks is going pro.
                              16. Tennessee


                              Josh Heupel hit the ground running, recording a winning season in his first year on the job and rejuvenating a downtrodden fan base. Transfer QB Hendon Hooker flourished under Heupel and should have another big season with 1,000-yard receiver Cedric Tillman coming back. The running game is in capable hands as well. A defense that allowed 29 points per game needs to make strides in 2022.
                              17. Wisconsin


                              The Badgers tend to reload defensively instead of rebuild, and running back Braelon Allen is a star in the making. But they need QB Graham Mertz to make a lot of progress if they want to return to winning the Big Ten West after two years of watching someone else from that division go to Indianapolis.
                              18. Houston


                              Dana Holgorsen got his career back on track in a big way in 2021, taking the Cougars to 12 wins. He should have the roster to win the American Athletic Conference in ’22, though there are some defensive holes to fill. In QB Clayton Tune, running back Alton McCaskill and receiver Nathaniel Dell, Houston has star power that should light up the scoreboard.
                              19. North Carolina State


                              Dave Doeren has built a consistent winner, with last year’s 9–3 team among his best. Plenty of key parts from that group return, starting with quarterback Devin Leary (3,400 passing yards and 35 touchdowns in 2021). Linebacker Payton Wilson, who missed most of 2021, is coming back as well to anchor the defense. Between Clemson, Wake Forest and NC State, the ACC will tilt heavily toward the Atlantic Division again.
                              20. Oregon


                              The Ducks are losing plenty from their Pac-12 North championship team, including head coach Mario Cristobal. But Cristobal signed three straight top-10 recruiting classes from 2019 to ’21, so there is talent on hand waiting for an opportunity. Noah Sewell might be the nation’s best inside linebacker and will be the centerpiece of Dan Lanning’s defense. Mercurial quarterback Bo Nix arrives from Auburn, where he made a lot of things happen (some good, some bad).

                              21. Kentucky


                              With two 10-win seasons in the last three, the Wildcats have arrived as a consistent contender. They should keep that momentum going in 2022, with quarterback Will Levis returning and leading rusher Chris Rodriguez Jr. expected to do the same (big-play receiver Wan’Dale Robinson has declared for the draft). There will be some retooling on defense. Kentucky has been active in the transfer portal, both in terms of who’s coming and who’s going, but Mark Stoops is bringing in the highest-rated recruiting class in school history and some of those freshmen could have an immediate impact.
                              22. Iowa


                              The Hawkeyes are here because they’re simply too consistent to count out, piling up winning seasons year after year under Kirk Ferentz. They need improvement at quarterback and lose the best center in college football, but the defense should again be stout—especially after safety Riley Moss announced that he will stay in school.
                              23. Cincinnati


                              The Bearcats finally broke up the large band of seniors who built the program into a power, but they’ve held on to Luke Fickell. (So far. Again, we’ll see whether there is going to be an opening at Michigan.) As long as he’s there, Cincinnati will be good. But there are big personnel losses on both sides of the ball. Fickell has always said he wants an offensive line-driven program, and this is the chance to prove that. That’s where the greatest experience lies.
                              24. Purdue


                              We got a glimpse of what the Boilermakers will be without NFL talents David Bell and George Karlaftis in the Music City Bowl—and it was pretty good. QB Aidan O’Connell (more than 5,700 career passing yards) is coming back, and Jeff Brohm never runs out of receivers. Losing defensive coordinator Brad Lambert is a blow, but Brohm has gotten more involved on that side of the ball and should maintain the same style of play defensively.
                              25. Coastal Carolina


                              With quarterback Grayson McCall famously declaring, “I piss teal,” in announcing his return for another season, expectations remain high for the Chanticleers. They’re 22–3 the past two seasons, since McCall became the starter. There will need to be a major rebuilding job on the defensive side and at receiver, however.
                              This is great news! Doubt will fuel the fire in this team.

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                                #16
                                Texas not being ranked is pretty funny, they gotta be thinking we can't even field a team that gets more respect than Coastal Carolina.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Soonirvana View Post
                                  Get ready for an ESPN/USC lovefest 2.0
                                  Meh, that will all fall apart when they lose 4 or 5 games.

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by novasooner View Post
                                    The praise of USC is overdone, and people will soon see it for themselves, but at the moment everyone outside of our fanbase has written OU's obituary. Better get used to it. Until the team hits the field and starts winning, it's gonna be this way. I like to think that it's eating up the players more than it is the fans.
                                    Yessir. Few things can bind a team like a significant coaching change and the departure of rat poison.

                                    Adversity can be incredibly unifying.

                                    I think Brent's the right guy to do just that with this locker room.

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Me And My Butt View Post

                                      Meh, that will all fall apart when they lose 4 or 5 games.
                                      So basically the Texas Media Playbook every year

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                                        #20
                                        Last I checked, oSu’s “Most Powerful Defense in the World” has seen players dropping like flies.

                                        I guess it depends on whether OU rebounds or crashes and burns with all the coaching and roster changes we’re still in the middle of figuring out.

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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Me And My Butt View Post

                                          Meh, that will all fall apart when they lose 4 or 5 games.
                                          USC beats Rice 27-21…

                                          ”USC is back!!!”

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                                            #22
                                            Vegas Odds to win National Championship next year:

                                            https://www.vegasinsider.com/college.../odds/futures/

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by novasooner View Post
                                              The praise of USC is overdone, and people will soon see it for themselves, but at the moment everyone outside of our fanbase has written OU's obituary. Better get used to it. Until the team hits the field and starts winning, it's gonna be this way. I like to think that it's eating up the players more than it is the fans.
                                              The media is dying for an LA area team to promote. They actually think that people in LA care about college football and will start following their stories if they just have a team do well. USC gets swallowed up in that market. People want to hark back to the days of Pete Carroll, but they don't take into account that back then, there was no NFL football team in L.A. Now, there are two.

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                                                #24
                                                I have a lot of confidence in the new staff, returning corners, LBs, and skill guys. They should probably win a down conference if Gabriel can hang around 60-65% completion and protect the ball. But a fledgling rebuild doesn’t need to run into that version of Bama or tOSU.

                                                USC is foolishness but just let the talking heads talk. All this is accomplishing is putting more weight on Riley’s shoulders. The chance he lives up to expectations in year 1 is rapidly approaching zero. And that makes it progressively harder to keep selling the program and closing that gap later on, as any number of Texas HCs can attest.

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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by 1soonerinoregon View Post
                                                  People want to hark back to the days of Pete Carroll, but they don't take into account that back then, there was no NFL football team in L.A. Now, there are two.
                                                  Not to mention the fact that Pete has a helluva lot more charisma than LR and had, at least, some NFL bona fides.

                                                  But despite the fact that he had a roster full of future NFL starters and Heisman Trophy winners, Carroll still struggled to break .500 that first season.

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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by 1soonerinoregon View Post

                                                    The media is dying for an LA area team to promote. They actually think that people in LA care about college football and will start following their stories if they just have a team do well. USC gets swallowed up in that market. People want to hark back to the days of Pete Carroll, but they don't take into account that back then, there was no NFL football team in L.A. Now, there are two.
                                                    The media or....USC is dying to use the media to pump their program...?

                                                    Does the LA media really care about USC?

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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by smusooner View Post

                                                      The media or....USC is dying to use the media to pump their program...?

                                                      Does the LA media really care about USC?
                                                      They will as soon as SUC starts winning. How quickly people have forgotten how little fucks anybody gave about USC until that 2003 “National Championship” season.

                                                      Look at the meme “welcome back 49ers, fans!” to see what happens when you win versus when you don’t in CA. The excuse “we have better things to do in California!” runs rampant when their teams suck. Same for the Florida schools.

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                                                        #28
                                                        I so wish we could play USC next year.

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                                                          #29

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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by SoonerHank View Post
                                                            I so wish we could play USC next year.
                                                            Alamo is their ceiling. Probably OU's floor.

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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by SoonerHank View Post
                                                              I so wish we could play USC next year.
                                                              Not me. As it stands, that would be a great thing for USC and a bad thing for OU given that the only way they’d meet is in the postseason. USC isn’t going to any bowl game I want to be in for a good while.

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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Dr. X View Post

                                                                Not to mention the fact that Pete has a helluva lot more charisma than LR and had, at least, some NFL bona fides.

                                                                But despite the fact that he had a roster full of future NFL starters and Heisman Trophy winners, Carroll still struggled to break .500 that first season.
                                                                This. Muleshoe isn't in the same universe as Carroll. He's shown himself to be even sleazier than Carroll, but that's about his only advantage.

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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by novasooner View Post

                                                                  This. Muleshoe isn't in the same universe as Carroll. He's shown himself to be even sleazier than Carroll, but that's about his only advantage.
                                                                  Sleazier? Clearly depends on your definition. Carrol got USC a near death penalty level sanctions from which they have yet to recover. LR seemed to most operate within the rules and BV at least won't have to deal with that stuff coming in.

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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by novasooner View Post

                                                                    This. Muleshoe isn't in the same universe as Carroll. He's shown himself to be even sleazier than Carroll, but that's about his only advantage.
                                                                    I don't like Carroll, but I respect his results. Ill-gotten gains or what, dude has produced in college and the pros.

                                                                    LR hasn't proven shit, except that he can take a CFP program and gradually decline over a five-year span.

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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Velo Sooner View Post

                                                                      Sleazier? Clearly depends on your definition. Carrol got USC a near death penalty level sanctions from which they have yet to recover. LR seemed to most operate within the rules and BV at least won't have to deal with that stuff coming in.
                                                                      Honestly, yes. The shit Carroll was doing is almost quaint compared to what's going on now. Carroll clearly wasn't above cheating, but he was absolutely a winner. He reminds me of Barry in certain ways: charismatic and funny and relatable, but hard-nosed and well-prepared when it came to winning. Like all OU fans, I used to detest the guy, but I've come around on him. I think he's not only a far superior coach to Muleshoe, but a more decent human being.

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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Dr. X View Post

                                                                        I don't like Carroll, but I respect his results. Ill-gotten gains or what, dude has produced in college and the pros.

                                                                        LR hasn't proven shit, except that he can take a CFP program and gradually decline over a five-year span.
                                                                        Agree. Carroll's teams dicked around too much during the regular season, but when it came to bowl games, aside from the 2005 Rose Bowl, USC just obliterated people, year in and year out. The only thing TBOW ever obliterated was his own reputation.

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                                                                          #37
                                                                          meh...

                                                                          one I saw had these notables...

                                                                          balyor 5

                                                                          OU 10

                                                                          usc 18

                                                                          pokes not ranked

                                                                          horns 23 (I think)

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                                                                            #38
                                                                            I hope USC is ranked #1 in August. I believe such a ranking will provide a lot of laughter for many weeks.

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                                                                              #39
                                                                              2022 Title odds from Caesars in Vegas



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                                                                                #40
                                                                                sc should be closer to UCLA than Bama

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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Sooner in SoCal View Post
                                                                                  sc should be closer to UCLA than Bama
                                                                                  Maybe that's the Fighting Beamers of South Carolina.

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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    CBS has us at 4

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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      typical sports writer offseason click bait bo-shiet

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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by novasooner View Post

                                                                                        Agree. Carroll's teams dicked around too much during the regular season, but when it came to bowl games, aside from the 2005 Rose Bowl, USC just obliterated people, year in and year out. The only thing TBOW ever obliterated was his own reputation.
                                                                                        I'll just stick with a different definition of sleezy. No one would argue Carroll is great coach, but he destroyed the program, vacated a BCS title and left such scholly restrictions USC could barely field a team for years. Imagine if LR left OU in that condition - would BV even taken the job? It was almost a guaranteed fail for the next couple of coaches.

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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Preseason polls when teams still have a third of their roster in the portal… lolz.

                                                                                          OU showed this year that preseason polls and expectations don’t mean shit. Never have. Certainly don’t anymore given the wonderful ideas we had to create college football free agency. Great job on everybody who supported that, by the way.

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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by 49cent View Post
                                                                                            Preseason polls when teams still have a third of their roster in the portal… lolz.

                                                                                            OU showed this year that preseason polls and expectations don’t mean shit. Never have. Certainly don’t anymore given the wonderful ideas we had to create college football free agency. Great job on everybody who supported that, by the way.

                                                                                            Clemson showed that even more than OU did this past season. The only thing I knew for sure about Clemson going into last season is that D.J. Ukulele (yeah, not looking up the spelling) was not a good QB and that Clemson would probably be a 2 loss team. They ended up even worse than that.

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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I have never hoped for a football program to fail as much as i do USC... and its not all about that douche Riley. I cant stand the media's lovefest with everything LA and now the 'All-world' football program that hasnt done shit in forever. And sitting in the Orange Bowl 20+ years ago while USC kicked our ass doesnt help either

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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                I'm thinking they went a little too easy on fOSU, they not only lost their DC to tOSU, they lost the majority of their starters on that defense.

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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I don't understand the Baylor love. They have a total of 6 starters returning next year (3 on defense/ 3 on offense).

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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Everyone thinking OU is dead will be sorely mistaken. We aren’t going anywhere.

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