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    #51
    Originally posted by SEC View Post
    I’d say Brett Farve. But he did good from lil’o Southern Miss.

    However was a total fk up around the hood here.
    More so than a lot of the clowns in the NFL or college football? Seems like he would have had to make a pretty big mistake to outdo some of the dipwads who show up on the police blotter.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Middle Aged Man View Post

      More so than a lot of the clowns in the NFL or college football? Seems like he would have had to make a pretty big mistake to outdo some of the dipwads who show up on the police blotter.
      Ha. Brett was a holy terror in the local bars and wasn’t liked in souf MS.

      He has mellowed in his years..and no doubt a helluva athlete.

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        #53
        Who was the defensive kid in the last ten or so years that was from Haskell or some other small town? Ride bulls and shit. Just faded away before he was done at OU but was a monster for a little bit. I’m thinking his nickname was the Hammer.

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          #54
          Originally posted by 1stTimeCaller View Post
          Who was the defensive kid in the last ten or so years that was from Haskell or some other small town? Ride bulls and shit. Just faded away before he was done at OU but was a monster for a little bit. I’m thinking his nickname was the Hammer.
          Ronnell Lewis (he was from Dewar).

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            #55
            Originally posted by Middle Aged Man View Post

            Len Bias. I had not thought about him in a long time. Another along that line, though no fault of his own, was Hank Gathers.
            Originally posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post

            Those teams were fun to watch. Westhead loved playing Billy
            Funniest thing I ever saw written on a bathroom stall wall.

            I was in an airport bathroom somewhere (maybe Atlanta) right after Bias died, and it said "Nice pick Boston. At least the only thing Bird puts up his nose is his finger."
            Live Free or Die!

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              #56
              Originally posted by Salt City Sooner View Post

              Ronnell Lewis (he was from Dewar).
              He got drafted didn't he? I don't ever remember hearing much about him after he left OU. Here's another one that was very good in college and never got a shot...Striker. Last I heard he was still changing oil for Tate Boys in BA.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Longcrawler View Post

                He got drafted didn't he? I don't ever remember hearing much about him after he left OU. Here's another one that was very good in college and never got a shot...Striker. Last I heard he was still changing oil for Tate Boys in BA.
                Mazeppa is friends with him. Maybe he can help you out.
                Live Free or Die!

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Longcrawler View Post

                  He got drafted didn't he? I don't ever remember hearing much about him after he left OU. Here's another one that was very good in college and never got a shot...Striker. Last I heard he was still changing oil for Tate Boys in BA.
                  4th round by Detroit (p.s. drafthistory.com is a great site to bookmark, just a heads up). :)


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                    #59
                    JC Watts. I know he had success in the CFL but I always wondered how he would have fared in the NFL.
                    One of the greatest NFL quarterbacks started in the CFL and ended with great NFL success. Trivia question: who was that?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by OUrage View Post
                      JC Watts. I know he had success in the CFL but I always wondered how he would have fared in the NFL.
                      One of the greatest NFL quarterbacks started in the CFL and ended with great NFL success. Trivia question: who was that?
                      Warren Moon?

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                        #61
                        Originally posted by Stinger_1066 View Post

                        Mazeppa is friends with him. Maybe he can help you out.
                        Last time I talked to him he was still doing MMA. That was a few years ago.


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                          #62
                          Originally posted by OUrage View Post
                          JC Watts. I know he had success in the CFL but I always wondered how he would have fared in the NFL.
                          One of the greatest NFL quarterbacks started in the CFL and ended with great NFL success. Trivia question: who was that?
                          Joey Theeseman.

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                            #63
                            Originally posted by Salt City Sooner View Post
                            It wasn’t a knee with Dupree, it was a helmet to helmet hit (Marcus initiated it).
                            He blew out the knee playing in the USFL...can't remember the name of the opponent.

                            Last I heard he was a greeter, or whatever you call it, at a casino in Mississippi.
                            Last edited by Sooner Schooner; 03-12-2022, 06:34 PM.

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                              #64
                              “Ron Powlus”- Beano Cooke

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                                #65
                                Always wanted Sam Bradford to get a true chance, behind a decent Oline, and without the terrible injuries. He was one of the most accurate QBs I’ve ever seen, but he was just pounded relentlessly because of bad offenses and terrible protection.

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                                  #66
                                  Da Boz

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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Middle Aged Man View Post

                                    Len Bias. I had not thought about him in a long time.
                                    I was pumped anticipating an undefeated Celtics season, with Len Bias joining Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, Robert Parrish, Dennis Johnson, and Danny Ainge. Although Bird may have retired if Bias had come on board (bad back). But a night of coke ruined that dream. Saw the news at a service area on I-80 in PA that morning.

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                                      #68
                                      San Toy DuBose, QB from Checotah. Would have been the 1st native American since Jack Jacobs to be OU's starting QB.
                                      Misread the title and was commenting on an OU college career only.

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                                        #69
                                        Actually, Hershel Walker. Best college running back of all time.

                                        like Dupree, in a way, never got to his true potential.

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                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post


                                          That face alone would scare a qb into a fumble.

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                                            #71
                                            Troy Davis Iowa State running back.

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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Stinger_1066 View Post



                                              Funniest thing I ever saw written on a bathroom stall wall.

                                              I was in an airport bathroom somewhere (maybe Atlanta) right after Bias died, and it said "Nice pick Boston. At least the only thing Bird puts up his nose is his finger."
                                              That's completely fucked up.

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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by SEC View Post
                                                Actually, Hershel Walker. Best college running back of all time.
                                                Barry Sanders was the best. And I despise the pokes.

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                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by CalSOONER View Post

                                                  Barry Sanders was the best. And I despise the pokes.
                                                  He couldn’t even start until Thomas left. I’ll take Walker.

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                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by CalSOONER View Post

                                                    Barry Sanders was the best. And I despise the pokes.
                                                    I agree about Barry Sanders and I also think Earl Campbell was a great back and I despise UT

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                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by 61Sooner View Post
                                                      San Toy DuBose, QB from Checotah. Would have been the 1st native American since Jack Jacobs to be OU's starting QB.
                                                      Misread the title and was commenting on an OU college career only.
                                                      You mean Chabon Dacon (Capitol Hill). Dubose was a black halfback from Star Spencer. Both had injuries that kept them from doing anything.

                                                      It is speculated that Dacon would have beaten out Bobby Warmack and Jim Burger in 1966. From the guys who played against him as a freshman they describe him as Johnny Manziel like. Dubose probably would have been good enough to split some time with Steve Owens but he was ineffective after a knee injury.

                                                      Chabon became a famous Native American artist.

                                                      Last edited by Ruprecht; 03-14-2022, 12:37 PM.

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                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Ruprecht View Post

                                                        You mean Chabon Dacon (Capitol Hill). Dubose was a black halfback from Star Spencer. Both had injuries that kept them from doing anything.

                                                        It is speculated that Dacon would have beaten out Bobby Warmack and Jim Burger in 1966. From the guys who played against him as a freshman they describe him as Johnny Manziel like. Dubose probably would have been good enough to split some time with Steve Owens but he was ineffective after a knee injury.

                                                        Chabon became a famous Native American artist.

                                                        Good research. Thanks.

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                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post

                                                          He couldn’t even start until Thomas left. I’ll take Walker.
                                                          1. Was OSU supposed to bench an All-American (and future NFL MVP and two-time All-Pro)?
                                                          2. Walker had 9 200-yard games in his career, with a high of 283 vs. Vanderbilt. Sanders had SEVEN 200-yard games in one year alone, four of which topped 300 yards.
                                                          3. Walker had 52 TDs in his career. Sanders had 44 in 1988 alone.

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                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post

                                                            He couldn’t even start until Thomas left. I’ll take Walker.
                                                            Originally posted by CalSOONER View Post
                                                            1. Was OSU supposed to bench an All-American (and future NFL MVP and two-time All-Pro)?
                                                            2. Walker had 9 200-yard games in his career, with a high of 283 vs. Vanderbilt. Sanders had SEVEN 200-yard games in one year alone, four of which topped 300 yards.
                                                            3. Walker had 52 TDs in his career. Sanders had 44 in 1988 alone.
                                                            Barry Sanders did great things even while Thurman was still there. Remember, he was the NCAA kick return leader his sophomore season.

                                                            Also, from Wiki:

                                                            Oklahoma Sooners head coach Barry Switzer in particular told his players not to injure Thomas, in fear of Sanders being started in his place.

                                                            But anyway, this thread is about players who DID NOT have success in the NFL.

                                                            Why are the names Herschel Walker, Thurman Thomas, Barry Sanders and Earl Campbell even mentioned here?

                                                            Nevermind. I know the reason. DB gonna DB.
                                                            Live Free or Die!

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                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Stinger_1066 View Post



                                                              Barry Sanders did great things even while Thurman was still there. Remember, he was the NCAA kick return leader his sophomore season.

                                                              Also, from Wiki:

                                                              Oklahoma Sooners head coach Barry Switzer in particular told his players not to injure Thomas, in fear of Sanders being started in his place.

                                                              But anyway, this thread is about players who DID NOT have success in the NFL.

                                                              Why are the names Herschel Walker, Thurman Thomas, Barry Sanders and Earl Campbell even mentioned here?

                                                              Nevermind. I know the reason. DB gonna DB.
                                                              Best running backs ever was being discussed. Someone said Walker. And Sanders. And Campbell.

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                                                                #81
                                                                joe don looney.

                                                                david overstreet.

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                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by CalSOONER View Post

                                                                  Barry Sanders was the best. And I despise the pokes.
                                                                  Barry was an excellent running back. One of the best, no doubt. But he didn’t have the power of Herschel. I have to disagree. Dupree, Herschel, Bo J and playing in todays defense, Henry.

                                                                  Herschel is the best all time, IMO. Close? Maybe. But far as a pure running back, he tops the list. Then the rest of his history far as a back, is what I’m talking about. A CF.

                                                                  He is Still a helluva man to this day and out run or out physical most humans.

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                                                                    #83
                                                                    Rodney's torn ACL in 2019 was pretty fucking devastating. Guy's talent and ability was criminally understated. He was Adrian Peterson-esque, (but without beating kids testicles with sticks) and had aboslutely the worst luck of any player in existence.

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                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by SEC View Post

                                                                      Barry was an excellent running back. One of the best, no doubt. But he didn’t have the power of Herschel. I have to disagree. Dupree, Herschel, Bo J and playing in todays defense, Henry.

                                                                      Herschel is the best all time, IMO. Close? Maybe. But far as a pure running back, he tops the list. Then the rest of his history far as a back, is what I’m talking about. A CF.

                                                                      He is Still a helluva man to this day and out run or out physical most humans.
                                                                      After thinking about it for a while I have to agree with you. Herschel is probably the best running back.

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                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by manateepower View Post
                                                                        Rodney's torn ACL in 2019 was pretty fucking devastating. Guy's talent and ability was criminally understated. He was Adrian Peterson-esque, (but without beating kids testicles with sticks) and had aboslutely the worst luck of any player in existence.
                                                                        Agree, its a shame he kept getting hurt. His performance against Georgia in the Rose Bowl is one for the ages.

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                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by amtc View Post

                                                                          After thinking about it for a while I have to agree with you. Herschel is probably the best running back.
                                                                          He would STILL run over most and make grown men cry. Guess where he’s from, hehe.

                                                                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_Walker


                                                                          Herschel Walker (born March 3, 1962) is a former American football running back, bobsledder, and mixed martial artist. He played college football for the University of Georgia, earned consensus All-American honors three times and won the 1982 Heisman Trophy. He is considered to be one of the greatest college football players of all time, ranked No. 1 by Bleacher Report,






                                                                          If ever catch it, I’ve tried to find and post it, but ESPN 30 for 30 does a great job on players from the SEC and if you love football, no matter your affiliation with any league, they are entertaining. To say the least. Mannings, Walker, Thunder and Lightening out of MS St, Coaches, etc… but can’t just grab the YouTube or film and post. Or maybe someone here can. But the 30 for 30 documentary on Herschel form when he raced trains on the track from a fat kid, to being bullied and beat up in school, to the time he was a super human is a great watch. Check it out, if can.

                                                                          Not 30 for 30, “SEC Storied”.
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                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by amtc View Post

                                                                            Agree, its a shame he kept getting hurt. His performance against Georgia in the Rose Bowl is one for the ages.
                                                                            Yep. Notre Dame knew they had to absolutely stop Herschel and they had a great game plan and focused on him entirely. Herschel didn’t play “against” GA, btw. Was against Notre Dame. And Notre Dame pretty much solely focused on Herschel, which is a great plan, broke him, and still couldn’t stop him.

                                                                            A little nostalgia for our hardcore, football,
                                                                            smash mouth guys here.




                                                                            Last edited by SEC; 03-15-2022, 01:42 AM.

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                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by CalSOONER View Post
                                                                              1. Was OSU supposed to bench an All-American (and future NFL MVP and two-time All-Pro)?
                                                                              2. Walker had 9 200-yard games in his career, with a high of 283 vs. Vanderbilt. Sanders had SEVEN 200-yard games in one year alone, four of which topped 300 yards.
                                                                              3. Walker had 52 TDs in his career. Sanders had 44 in 1988 alone.

                                                                              I know this will be disputed, fiercely from this bunch, but Sanders was playing collegiate ball at a different level of competition than Bo or Walker. If Sanders would have been in the ACC, those numbers might have been greater.. And if he played against some of our best HS teams in the nation, even greater. Well, you get the point.

                                                                              IMO, no one was as good as Walker. Far as a pure running back. Maybe Derrick Henry of recent times. (I’m in no way taking anything away from Sanders, he was absolutely one of the best in in MY top 5).

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                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post

                                                                                Best running backs ever was being discussed. Someone said Walker. And Sanders. And Campbell.
                                                                                Is Stinker_1069 gnu here?? Da fuq.

                                                                                Nevermind. We need to be abstract as possible. I’m putting my serious face on now….

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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by SEC View Post

                                                                                  Barry was an excellent running back. One of the best, no doubt. But he didn’t have the power of Herschel. I have to disagree. Dupree, Herschel, Bo J and playing in todays defense, Henry.

                                                                                  Herschel is the best all time, IMO. Close? Maybe. But far as a pure running back, he tops the list. Then the rest of his history far as a back, is what I’m talking about. A CF.

                                                                                  He is Still a helluva man to this day and out run or out physical most humans.
                                                                                  I promised myself to never respond to anymore of the things you post here but the litany of absurd statements you made inthis thread just won’t let me ignore you any longer. You are so myopic about all things in college football must be related to the SEC that you just ASSUMED that since amtc mentioned Georgia in his post that he had to be talking about Herschel even though Walker never played in the Rose Bowl. He was talking about Rodney Anderson…you know…an Oklahoma Sooner. You topped that, though, when you said that Sanders is not the greatest running back ever because he “didn’t have the power of Herschel, Dupree, Bo J or Henry.” This not only smacks of SEC bias (I guess Jim Brown and Earl Campbell don’t matter since they aren’t from the Deep South)but is also clearly stacking the deck to make your point. Power is important to running backs but so is speed, vision, and elusiveness and as far as those attributes go, Sanders was otherworldly. Finally, mitigating Sanders’ accomplishments by saying he played against weak defenses in the Big XII unlike Bo and Herschel is really unfair. The SEC was not the dominating force then that it is now. Things have changed over the years but that does not give you the license to change history. I like Herschel. In fact he went to my church in DFW and is a very humble and kind man. But he’s not a better rb than Sanders.

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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by Colonel O’Truth View Post
                                                                                    I promised myself to never respond to anymore of the things you post here but the litany of absurd statements you made inthis thread just won’t let me ignore you any longer. You are so myopic about all things in college football must be related to the SEC that you just ASSUMED that since amtc mentioned Georgia in his post that he had to be talking about Herschel even though Walker never played in the Rose Bowl. He was talking about Rodney Anderson…you know…an Oklahoma Sooner. You topped that, though, when you said that Sanders is not the greatest running back ever because he “didn’t have the power of Herschel, Dupree, Bo J or Henry.” This not only smacks of SEC bias (I guess Jim Brown and Earl Campbell don’t matter since they aren’t from the Deep South)but is also clearly stacking the deck to make your point. Power is important to running backs but so is speed, vision, and elusiveness and as far as those attributes go, Sanders was otherworldly. Finally, mitigating Sanders’ accomplishments by saying he played against weak defenses in the Big XII unlike Bo and Herschel is really unfair. The SEC was not the dominating force then that it is now. Things have changed over the years but that does not give you the license to change history. I like Herschel. In fact he went to my church in DFW and is a very humble and kind man. But he’s not a better rb than Sanders.
                                                                                    Herschel won 3 Super Bowls for the Dallas Cowboys.

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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Well, yeah…he and 54 other guys.

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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by SEC View Post

                                                                                        Barry was an excellent running back. One of the best, no doubt. But he didn’t have the power of Herschel. I have to disagree. Dupree, Herschel, Bo J and playing in todays defense, Henry.

                                                                                        Herschel is the best all time, IMO. Close? Maybe. But far as a pure running back, he tops the list. Then the rest of his history far as a back, is what I’m talking about. A CF.

                                                                                        He is Still a helluva man to this day and out run or out physical most humans.
                                                                                        I remember reading one time that Herschel took ballet to improve his balance and would do 1000 sit-ups every day.

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                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by Colonel O’Truth View Post
                                                                                          I promised myself to never respond to anymore of the things you post here but the litany of absurd statements you made inthis thread just won’t let me ignore you any longer. You are so myopic about all things in college football must be related to the SEC that you just ASSUMED that since amtc mentioned Georgia in his post that he had to be talking about Herschel even though Walker never played in the Rose Bowl. He was talking about Rodney Anderson…you know…an Oklahoma Sooner. You topped that, though, when you said that Sanders is not the greatest running back ever because he “didn’t have the power of Herschel, Dupree, Bo J or Henry.” This not only smacks of SEC bias (I guess Jim Brown and Earl Campbell don’t matter since they aren’t from the Deep South)but is also clearly stacking the deck to make your point. Power is important to running backs but so is speed, vision, and elusiveness and as far as those attributes go, Sanders was otherworldly. Finally, mitigating Sanders’ accomplishments by saying he played against weak defenses in the Big XII unlike Bo and Herschel is really unfair. The SEC was not the dominating force then that it is now. Things have changed over the years but that does not give you the license to change history. I like Herschel. In fact he went to my church in DFW and is a very humble and kind man. But he’s not a better rb than Sanders.
                                                                                          Barry Sanders played in the Big 8 Conference which is the only conference to have a winning record against the SEC. After Sec mentioned Hershel Walker as the best I didn’t agree at first but the more I thought about it and looked online I thinks he has a valid point. in regards to the level of competition that both backs played against I think that’s harder to quantify. Barry played against tough competition in the Big 8 on a poor to average team. Hershel played on a good team in the SEC when they were not as dominant as they are now. I feel confident in saying that either back would have preformed just as good had they switched teams. If you are good you are good now matter what team you are on.

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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by amtc View Post

                                                                                            Barry Sanders played in the Big 8 Conference which is the only conference to have a winning record against the SEC. After Sec mentioned Hershel Walker as the best I didn’t agree at first but the more I thought about it and looked online I thinks he has a valid point. in regards to the level of competition that both backs played against I think that’s harder to quantify. Barry played against tough competition in the Big 8 on a poor to average team. Hershel played on a good team in the SEC when they were not as dominant as they are now. I feel confident in saying that either back would have preformed just as good had they switched teams. If you are good you are good now matter what team you are on.
                                                                                            OSU in’88 was not average. OU & NU were their only losses, & in fact, OU was the only team to hold them under 40 points. They were similar to ‘17 OU in the respect that they were a decent defense (especially against NU, they were a sieve in that game) away from serious contention. I’m no OSU fan to say the least, but I’ve always wondered who their opponent would have been had Parker held on to that ball. It’s a game I would have watched out of curiosity if nothing else.

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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Thomas Lott
                                                                                              Billy S
                                                                                              Boz
                                                                                              Gaddis
                                                                                              Rocky
                                                                                              Sam B (ya...decent but would have liked him to really do well)

                                                                                              Of course the stud lineman that paved the way for all those guys...

                                                                                              the list could go on and on...

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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                VY

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                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Colonel O’Truth View Post
                                                                                                  Well, yeah…he and 54 other guys.
                                                                                                  But Herschel has no rings to show for it.

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                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Soonerjeepman View Post
                                                                                                    Thomas Lott
                                                                                                    Billy S
                                                                                                    Boz
                                                                                                    Gaddis
                                                                                                    Rocky
                                                                                                    Sam B (ya...decent but would have liked him to really do well)

                                                                                                    Of course the stud lineman that paved the way for all those guys...

                                                                                                    the list could go on and on...
                                                                                                    I still think Sam Bradford’s career was a shame. He was on some god awful Rams teams. I’ve heard Chris Long on several podcasts talk about how bad they were for so long. The best game of Sam’s was as a Viking playing the Saints in New Orleans. One of best quarterbacked games I’ve seen. He made every throw with ease.

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