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    If Texas and Oklahoma join the SEC in 2023, here are 7 things that would be impacted

    The cause and effect of conference realignment is back and better than ever.

    Of course, last summer when Oklahoma and Texas stunned the college football world with their move to the SEC, The Alliance happened in an effort to not be bullied by the SEC with future big-picture negotiations. Instead of seeing the Playoff expand from 4 to 12 teams, The Alliance nixed that possibility for the near future.

    On Tuesday, Action Network’s Brett McMurphy reported another potentially significant cause and effect. The Big 12 could be adding Cincinnati, Houston and UCF as soon as 2023 if they can reach a settlement to leave the AAC.

    Remember, independent BYU is also set to join the Big 12 in 2023.

    It’s possible that Oklahoma and Texas stay in the Big 12 through the 2024 season, as is currently scheduled per their agreement. The Big 12 would just have a strange, 2-year scheduling model that would need to be changed immediately after Oklahoma and Texas head to the SEC after the 2024 season. If that’s the scenario, the Big 12 would have 14 teams in 2023 and 2024.

    But what’s also possible is the new Big 12 is born. Oklahoma and Texas could negotiate buyouts with the Big 12, and we could see both teams enter the SEC in 2023.

    If that scenario plays out, here are 7 impacts of that.
    1. The Texas-Alabama game in 2023 would be __________.


    I’m guessing it would still be played, but it would be treated as a nonconference game. Canceling it doesn’t make sense because by then, Alabama will have already played against Texas; they meet in Week 2 this season. We don’t know what future divisions would look like, so there is the possibility that this matchup would be played as a conference game. But it was scheduled as a home-and-home nonconference series, so any tweak on that would go against the contract that both teams agreed on.



    In all likelihood, we’ll get Nick Saban vs. Steve Sarkisian Part II. Depending on how much hype Texas has entering 2023 — my guess is top-10 buzz — it’ll be Sark’s highly anticipated return to Tuscaloosa.
    2. The Oklahoma-Georgia game in 2023 would be __________.


    Potentially canceled. You see, this series is different because unlike Texas-Alabama, 2023 is the beginning of the series. Alternatively, you could also treat this series as a nonconference matchup. Where it gets messy is if Oklahoma and Georgia are in the same pod/division. Geographically, that doesn’t make sense, but hey, Mizzou spent a decade in the SEC East so how much does that really matter?

    The 2017 Rose Bowl rematch is scheduled to be played in Norman in 2023. But interestingly, it isn’t set to return to Georgia for the other half of the home-and-home until 2031. That might mean both matchups are treated as nonconference games if they’re played at all.

    Also keep in mind that Oklahoma is set to face Tennessee in 2024. The Josh Heupel Bowl could also keep its nonconference tag and be played as scheduled. Remember that we still don’t know how many conference games the SEC would play when Oklahoma and Texas join the league. If that number stays at 8, we’d see Oklahoma and Texas have to add another nonconference matchup to their future schedules for as early as 2023 (they currently play a 9-game conference slate in the Big 12).
    3. An A&M-Texas matchup would finally be on the calendar


    Speaking of juicy matchups, A&M and Texas will finally be forced back into a matchup. Divisions would dictate how soon that matchup would be. We don’t know if A&M and Texas would face each other in an annual crossover. It could be Oklahoma and Texas that get the annual crossover.

    Either way, A&M and Texas could end the petty war of words and actually play again at some point. Even if it isn’t an annual matchup — what a disappointment that would be — they could still face each other at least twice per decade. That’s better than going potentially 12 years between matchups like they’re currently set to do.

    A 2023 matchup would be ideal, especially with the timing for both programs. We know that A&M just signed a historic recruiting class in 2022. In all likelihood, the Aggies will have a true championship window in 2023-24. Texas, on the other hand, could enter 2023 with its best preseason ranking since 2010 … when a No. 5 ranking turned into a 5-win season. But 2023, with Quinn Ewers in his pre-draft season, would have a different feel than 2010 when Texas was fresh off a national runner-up season.

    Speaking of Ewers …
    4. Welcome to the SEC, Quinn Ewers


    I know, I know. I need to slow my roll on the Ewers hype train. I can’t keep drooling any time I watch him effortlessly sling it 60 yards. The fact that I listed Ewers as my favorite Heisman bet at 40-to-1 suggests I’m all in on the country’s highest-rated quarterback recruit since Vince Young.

    But Ewers joining the SEC ahead of his pre-draft season would be fantastic entertainment. If he looks the part in 2022, he’d get off-the-charts hype coming into the SEC in 2023. Ewers could evolve into a villain of sorts, in part because he’s Texas’ best shot at national relevance in the SEC, and also because his NIL earnings could be through the roof by then (he already reportedly earned north of a million dollars at Ohio State before he left for Texas).

    Something tells me the mullet-rocking prized signal-caller could become a polarizing SEC figure in a hurry.


    5. The Arch Manning factor


    Where will Arch end up? That’s perhaps as intriguing of a question as any in 2023. Texas, Alabama, Georgia and Ole Miss all appear to be significantly in the mix with others like Clemson, Florida, LSU and Virginia also vying for the 2023 quarterback’s services.

    If we found out in the next month that Oklahoma and Texas negotiated a buyout and they were set to join the SEC in 2023, would that impact Manning’s decision either way? It could. If there’s skepticism about joining the league that his uncles and grandpa once dominated, that could theoretically push Manning to a place like Clemson or Virginia.

    Alternatively, Texas’ move to the SEC could turn it into an all-SEC battle. For all we know, Manning wants to play in the conference that he grew up watching and Texas’ current spot in the Big 12 is the only thing working against the Longhorns (another thing working against the Longhorns could be that they haven’t had an offensive player drafted in Round 1 since Vince Young in 2006). If Texas doesn’t join the SEC until 2025, Manning could play his first 2 years against Big 12 defenses.

    Or, I guess, this could all be totally irrelevant and Manning won’t consider conference affiliation at all. Manning spending anywhere from 1-3 years in the SEC seems most likely.
    6. Etch the NFL Draft streak in stone


    I mean, 16 consecutive years of NFL Draft dominance won’t stop by adding Oklahoma and Texas even though the Longhorns somehow got skunked in 2022. Sarkisian will change that. Well, I suppose he doesn’t have to. The SEC has 8 consecutive years of 50-plus NFL Draft picks while no other conference reached that feat during that stretch.

    If Oklahoma and Texas join the SEC next year, it might not be fair to even consider NFL Draft records anymore. The SEC’s total mark of 65 will inevitably be shattered, as will the SEC’s first round feat of 15 players selected in 2020.

    If you’re doubting that, remember the caliber of head coach we’re talking about here. Sarkisian is the guy who had 9 offensive players picked in the first round in his 2 years at Alabama. Brent Venables is the guy who had 24 defensive players drafted at Clemson from 2015-22. Sure, that was as assistants, but both coaches had total autonomy on their respective sides of the ball, and they were both worthy of being considered top assistants in the sport. Hence, why they got their current big-time jobs.

    So yeah, expect the SEC to force the college football world to stop even tracking the draft picks by conference because it won’t be a fair fight (not that it is now).
    7. If the 4-team Playoff remained through 2025, we’d have 3 years in which the SEC would deserve half the field


    There’s some pushback on this notion, but there shouldn’t be, and here’s why. The “SEC bias” narrative has been proven wrong in the Playoff era. The SEC’s record in Playoff games — excluding SEC vs. SEC matchups — is 12-3. On top of that, the league won 5 of the 8 titles. Twice it put 2 teams in the field, and in those years the SEC went 4-0 in semifinal matchups. There’s no debate about conference supremacy during the Playoff era.

    Mind you, that was before this Oklahoma-Texas move. Those 2 teams won 6 of the last 7 Big 12 Championships and earned a Playoff berth on 4 of those occasions (I realize Texas contributed as much as you and I contributed to that total).

    In other words, the SEC deserves to have 2 spots until the field expands. The irony is that The Alliance blocked Playoff expansion so that the SEC wouldn’t have the possibility of putting 4-5 teams in a 12-team field. At least in that scenario, the majority of the field is non-SEC teams. If the SEC adds Oklahoma and Texas in 2023 and the Playoff remains at 4 through the 2025 season, we could easily see the SEC have 2-team bids every year, which would essentially mean that only 2 non-SEC spots would be available.


    I guess that wouldn’t be much of a change at all.


    https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/se...ings-impacted/
    Last edited by SEC; 05-04-2022, 07:53 PM.

    #2
    Re: #7, the SEC may legitimately have 2 teams in the CFP in any given year, but the SEC doesn't deserve to have two guaranteed spots.

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      #3
      A lot of “Alliance” talk in that article.

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        #4
        too many words for the current status of my brain to decipher

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          #5
          Originally posted by echo101 View Post
          too many words for the current status of my brain to decipher
          Things won't get better once you're an SEC fan.

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            #6
            Even with some of the scheduling snafus that it would cause, I’d still prefer to see OU/Texas make the move in 2023. That being said, I still think the Big 12 is going to stubbornly play hardball just to be spiteful and keep them both locked in until 2025. Hope I’m wrong.

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              #7
              Originally posted by OrangeBeachBum68 View Post
              Even with some of the scheduling snafus that it would cause, I’d still prefer to see OU/Texas make the move in 2023. That being said, I still think the Big 12 is going to stubbornly play hardball just to be spiteful and keep them both locked in until 2025. Hope I’m wrong.
              I read on the Texas board the Texas/Bama game in Austin this year will be played at 11am because FOX has the rights and is choosing the Big Noon Kickoff. Texas fans are pissed (it happened with us and Nebraska last year). Have you heard the same?

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                #8
                Originally posted by OrangeBeachBum68 View Post
                Even with some of the scheduling snafus that it would cause, I’d still prefer to see OU/Texas make the move in 2023. That being said, I still think the Big 12 is going to stubbornly play hardball just to be spiteful and keep them both locked in until 2025. Hope I’m wrong.
                Well, PAC could always line up as a replacement for the tie in to Sugar Bowl to face SEC..?



                What a solid bowl tie-in would XII have then..? (*Checking lists*): Alamo & Cheez-It haha..!

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                  #9
                  The notion that the SEC deserves two spots based merely on its existence exemplifies the inbred, group think that characterize that entire part of the country. Also, I've added this asshat to my ignore list a couple times, but his fucking posts just keep showing. eig stopped showing up, so maybe he will too.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Lout View Post
                    The notion that the SEC deserves two spots based merely on its existence exemplifies the inbred, group think that characterize that entire part of the country. Also, I've added this asshat to my ignore list a couple times, but his fucking posts just keep showing. eig stopped showing up, so maybe he will too.
                    eig. Prolly won’t. Ass hat.

                    Damn them inbred, group think, SEC FS beaters of every conference..! The horror…

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                      #11
                      Jeff Foxworthy.

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                        #12
                        Phil McGraw

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by OrangeBeachBum68 View Post
                          Even with some of the scheduling snafus that it would cause, I’d still prefer to see OU/Texas make the move in 2023. That being said, I still think the Big 12 is going to stubbornly play hardball just to be spiteful and keep them both locked in until 2025. Hope I’m wrong.

                          Agree. Would love to see OU/TX enter the SEC next year.


                          BIG XII probably will do everything they can to make that painful as possible for those two schools.

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                            #14
                            In other words, the SEC deserves to have 2 spots until the field expands. The irony is that The Alliance blocked Playoff expansion so that the SEC wouldn’t have the possibility of putting 4-5 teams in a 12-team field. At least in that scenario, the majority of the field is non-SEC teams. If the SEC adds Oklahoma and Texas in 2023 and the Playoff remains at 4 through the 2025 season, we could easily see the SEC have 2-team bids every year, which would essentially mean that only 2 non-SEC spots would be available.

                            Scenerio; Oklahoma and Texas go 9-3 in 2023( or any year). They aren’t good enough to make the playoffs but they leave all other SEC teams with at least 2 losses. If there are 3 undefeated teams from other conferences ( Big 12 Cincinnati) and a one loss Ohio State, the SEC gets shut out.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Omega Man View Post
                              In other words, the SEC deserves to have 2 spots until the field expands. The irony is that The Alliance blocked Playoff expansion so that the SEC wouldn’t have the possibility of putting 4-5 teams in a 12-team field. At least in that scenario, the majority of the field is non-SEC teams. If the SEC adds Oklahoma and Texas in 2023 and the Playoff remains at 4 through the 2025 season, we could easily see the SEC have 2-team bids every year, which would essentially mean that only 2 non-SEC spots would be available.

                              Scenerio; Oklahoma and Texas go 9-3 in 2023( or any year). They aren’t good enough to make the playoffs but they leave all other SEC teams with at least 2 losses. If there are 3 undefeated teams from other conferences ( Big 12 Cincinnati) and a one loss Ohio State, the SEC gets shut out.
                              Certain scenarios can happen, yes. Although highly unlikely that all SEc teams have 2+ losses and pretty unlikely that 3 of the other conferences have undefeated Champs. We have a decent sized sample and I don't think either has ever happened and most certainly haven't happened in the same year. The Alliance is cutting off their nose to spite their face.

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                                #16
                                Huh..? (He said it, not me):

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by OrangeBeachBum68 View Post
                                  Even with some of the scheduling snafus that it would cause, I’d still prefer to see OU/Texas make the move in 2023. That being said, I still think the Big 12 is going to stubbornly play hardball just to be spiteful and keep them both locked in until 2025. Hope I’m wrong.
                                  Kinda where I’m at, as well. Texas and ESPN have the trump card if they agree to dissolute the LHN. That seemed like the obvious route last summer until they didn’t want to make it so obvious. ESPN wants a partnership with OU and TX; but they don’t want to do it via failed cable networks devoted solely to one program.

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by kopp0e View Post
                                    Huh..? (He said it, not me):

                                    We sure that’s not fake?

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Garbage Poster View Post

                                      I read on the Texas board the Texas/Bama game in Austin this year will be played at 11am because FOX has the rights and is choosing the Big Noon Kickoff. Texas fans are pissed (it happened with us and Nebraska last year). Have you heard the same?
                                      Texas and Alabama just couldn’t be moved to a later time slot. Not with whatever the Purgatory 8 have going on. I mean, Kansas and Okie Light are must-see TV the entire CFB fandom wants to see under the Saturday night lights.
                                      Last edited by 49cent; 05-06-2022, 12:22 PM.

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by kopp0e View Post
                                        Huh..? (He said it, not me):

                                        TFB has a followup from Rattler that he never said that. Another example of how social media quickly spreads misinformation. Always be skeptical until facts confirmed. (That includes the followup denial attributed to Rattler).

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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Garbage Poster View Post

                                          I read on the Texas board the Texas/Bama game in Austin this year will be played at 11am because FOX has the rights and is choosing the Big Noon Kickoff. Texas fans are pissed (it happened with us and Nebraska last year). Have you heard the same?
                                          Fox has the number 1 selection in even years. Normally, the networks select the week OU/UT plays as their number 1 pick. Though, this didn't happen in the year LSU played UT in Austin, with ESPN picking LSU/UT week as number 1

                                          Speculation is as Fox hardly ever gets a shot to air 'Bama, they'll snatch that game up as number 1, bypassing OU/UT. Given Fox is unwavering and all in at Big Noon, that is when that game will kickoff. Fans and athletic directors can bitch and moan all they want, but Big Noon is Fox's featured timeslot, and Fox isn't going to change that.

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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by FtwTxSooner View Post

                                            Fox has the number 1 selection in even years. Normally, the networks select the week OU/UT plays as their number 1 pick. Though, this didn't happen in the year LSU played UT in Austin, with ESPN picking LSU/UT week as number 1

                                            Speculation is as Fox hardly ever gets a shot to air 'Bama, they'll snatch that game up as number 1, bypassing OU/UT. Given Fox is unwavering and all in at Big Noon, that is when that game will kickoff. Fans and athletic directors can bitch and moan all they want, but Big Noon is Fox's featured timeslot, and Fox isn't going to change that.
                                            Yeah, I understand; I just think it's funny.

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by 49cent View Post

                                              We sure that’s not fake?
                                              Hmm..? (I may have been duped.?!) In reality, it would seem beyond absurd for a new QB to enter the league with such a bulseye placed on them, by their own words..!

                                              Originally posted by Velo Sooner View Post

                                              TFB has a followup from Rattler that he never said that. Another example of how social media quickly spreads misinformation. Always be skeptical until facts confirmed. (That includes the followup denial attributed to Rattler).


                                              Hmm, that is logical, I'll watch Bruce Campbell punch himself in the face vs thinking XII "is better than SEC" would be uttered by any right-thinking human with a pulse..!

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                                                #24
                                                Wouldn’t it better for the Big 12 to get rid of Texas and OU sooner? The longer the teams stay the less the payout right?

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                                                  #25
                                                  If Spencer truly did say this about the SEC, maybe we should start calling him Sabre Rattler.

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                                                    #26
                                                    I'm still trying to figure out why everyone is giving the Manning kid all the hype, I've watched all the film I could find on the kid and he just doesn't seem that impressive to me. I'm sure having the last name that he does and his heritage that dates back to his uncle tea-bagging some trainer, but other than that, he makes no more sense as a top rated QB than that SEC cheesedick that keeps showing up around here talking more shit than his butt-buddy So-Cali. It must be the thought of having the kids name tied to the school and whatever hype/money that brings with it, until the third/fourth game of the season when his INT's outnumber his TD's. The rest of that rant made as much sense as one of FJB's gaffes.

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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Longcrawler View Post
                                                      I'm still trying to figure out why everyone is giving the Manning kid all the hype, I've watched all the film I could find on the kid and he just doesn't seem that impressive to me. I'm sure having the last name that he does and his heritage that dates back to his uncle tea-bagging some trainer, but other than that, he makes no more sense as a top rated QB than that SEC cheesedick that keeps showing up around here talking more shit than his butt-buddy So-Cali. It must be the thought of having the kids name tied to the school and whatever hype/money that brings with it, until the third/fourth game of the season when his INT's outnumber his TD's. The rest of that rant made as much sense as one of FJB's gaffes.
                                                      Cheesy-dick, ehh? Heh

                                                      I’ve seen Arch several times, don’t know about him being the next QB whisperer but he didn’t play on a power house HS football team and many times made chicken salad out of chicken shit. He’s pretty athletic. Will he carry a mediocre college team over the top? Ehhh, doubt it but in a good system with good coaches at the next level, I think he’d be pretty OK. To say the least.

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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by amtc View Post
                                                        Wouldn’t it better for the Big 12 to get rid of Texas and OU sooner? The longer the teams stay the less the payout right?
                                                        Not according to this representative of the pokes.

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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by 49cent View Post

                                                          We sure that’s not fake?
                                                          Originally posted by Velo Sooner View Post

                                                          TFB has a followup from Rattler that he never said that. Another example of how social media quickly spreads misinformation. Always be skeptical until facts confirmed. (That includes the followup denial attributed to Rattler).
                                                          Originally posted by Colonel O’Truth View Post
                                                          If Spencer truly did say this about the SEC, maybe we should start calling him Sabre Rattler.
                                                          I Googled the quote and nothing showed up with respect for Rattler. I highly doubt he actually said that, otherwise it would have gone viral.
                                                          Live Free or Die!

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                                                            #30
                                                            In my opinion the SeC has 2 teams in the CFP every year. It’s called the SEC Championship game. Just consider it the first round of the playoffs.

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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Longcrawler View Post
                                                              I'm still trying to figure out why everyone is giving the Manning kid all the hype, I've watched all the film I could find on the kid and he just doesn't seem that impressive to me. I'm sure having the last name that he does and his heritage that dates back to his uncle tea-bagging some trainer, but other than that, he makes no more sense as a top rated QB than that SEC cheesedick that keeps showing up around here talking more shit than his butt-buddy So-Cali. It must be the thought of having the kids name tied to the school and whatever hype/money that brings with it, until the third/fourth game of the season when his INT's outnumber his TD's. The rest of that rant made as much sense as one of FJB's gaffes.
                                                              Not Bama. And I yes I agree this kid will most likely never live up to his hype. Of course Bama would take him but they are moving on in their recruiting efforts by focusing instead now on Eli Holstein, out of Louisiana and former TAMU commit. Arch is either Georgia or Texas bound most likely. Holstein is a little bigger then Arch ( 6'4 226) Arch ( 6'4 215), and actually is a better runner as well. I believe their skill sets are very similar. Also, Eli has won a state championship, Arch has not.


                                                              Personally I predict Arch ends up in Athens.
                                                              Last edited by OrangeBeachBum68; 05-09-2022, 09:49 AM.

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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by SEC View Post


                                                                Agree. Would love to see OU/TX enter the SEC next year.


                                                                BIG XII probably will do everything they can to make that painful as possible for those two schools.
                                                                That’s another one of the shameful shortcomings of both OU and TX last year. They (Purgatory 8) want to ply hardball, it’s only right if the football gods made these two programs beat the Purgatory 8 into submission with OU winning the RRS and the CCG rematch against TX every year until the P8 surrenders. Both OU and TX join the SEC and TX starts sucking hind tit again.

                                                                Okay… that would just be the best case scenario from where I’m standing, at least.

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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by OU48A View Post
                                                                  Not according to this representative of the pokes.

                                                                  I’d like to know what their dispensaries are selling up there in Stoolwater. By my count, Oklahoma has MADE the BIG 12 with 14 of its 26 football titles and a NC. We could add up our other non-revenue sports success but we all know this whole debate doesn’t happen nor does the conference exist without the football programs and what they bring to the table.

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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Garbage Poster View Post

                                                                    I read on the Texas board the Texas/Bama game in Austin this year will be played at 11am because FOX has the rights and is choosing the Big Noon Kickoff. Texas fans are pissed (it happened with us and Nebraska last year). Have you heard the same?

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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by FtwTxSooner View Post

                                                                      Funny replies. Many commenting on an 11am kickoff. Heh

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