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    I started watching during the pandemic, maybe around June 2020. Any enthusiasts on here? Still have tons to learn as far as terminology, betting, G1 vs G2. etc. Lots on FS1, FS2.

    #2
    Nobody?

    Saratoga opening day yesterday, no masks...

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      #3
      Originally posted by ab5sr View Post
      Nobody?

      Saratoga opening day yesterday, no masks...
      Casual player on the big ones. Love going to the track or OTB places tho I haven't been since kids were born.

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        #4
        G1 Diana was good yesterday. From Saratoga, big Fox picked up the 10th race.

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          #5
          Originally posted by RockFlagandEagle View Post

          Casual player on the big ones. Love going to the track or OTB places tho I haven't been since kids were born.
          Going to the track is fun, but besides the Triple Crown races I don't ever watch it on tv.

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            #6
            Originally posted by LakelandSooner View Post

            Going to the track is fun, but besides the Triple Crown races I don't ever watch it on tv.
            I used to also, but am getting into the FS1/FS2 broadcasts a lot lately.

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              #7
              Originally posted by ab5sr View Post

              I used to also, but am getting into the FS1/FS2 broadcasts a lot lately.
              I may have to check it out. Lots of good horse racing in Florida.

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                #8
                Arkansas Derby at Oaklawn. If you haven't done this, put it on your bucket list. It's a good annual event too.



                https://www.kentuckyderby.com/prep-races/arkansas-derby

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by OUspark View Post
                  Arkansas Derby at Oaklawn. If you haven't done this, put it on your bucket list. It's a good annual event too.



                  https://www.kentuckyderby.com/prep-races/arkansas-derby
                  Looks like fun! Wanna go!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ab5sr View Post

                    Looks like fun! Wanna go!
                    I remember always seeing people write something like "Married today Hot Springs tonight". Seems like I even saw a Bride at the track a few years ago when I was there.

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                      #11
                      Good one today, Saratoga has the 'Jim Dandy Stakes' which features Essential Quality in the line up. He won the Belmont Stakes 2021, was 4th in the Kentucky Derby in 2021...not bad.

                      5:39 PM EDT on FS2
                      • Purse: $600,000
                      • Distance: One And One Eighth Miles
                      • Age: 3 yo
                      • Surface: Dirt
                      Last edited by ab5sr; 07-31-2021, 01:46 PM.

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                        #12
                        Get on Twin Spires then put some $$ on the Ortiz Brothers...Irad and Jose Jr have been dominant for some time now and get some great rides. Trainer Brad Cox is young and building a hell of a career as well. Steven Asmussen has a lot of success at Remington during the Thoroughbred season. He's a good bet during that meet.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bubblehead View Post
                          Get on Twin Spires then put some $$ on the Ortiz Brothers...Irad and Jose Jr have been dominant for some time now and get some great rides. Trainer Brad Cox is young and building a hell of a career as well. Steven Asmussen has a lot of success at Remington during the Thoroughbred season. He's a good bet during that meet.
                          No doubt.

                          I think Irad is ridiing Essential Quality today.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ab5sr View Post

                            No doubt.

                            I think Irad is ridiing Essential Quality today.
                            Luis Saez got that ride today and won by 1 ½ lengths at 1 ⅛ mile on dirt. Hard to beat Irad on dirt but EQ is quality horseflesh. 7 wins in 8 starts for Brad Cox. EQ and Maxfield are the horses I've been following a lot in the last 2 years...pity Maxfield didn't get to participate in the Triple Crown because of injury.

                            I've got a barn quilt I made on my fence of Ron Turcotte's silks from his Secretariat ride.

                            No doubt I'm going to participate in this thread...thanks for posting it.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ab5sr View Post

                              No doubt.

                              I think Irad is ridiing Essential Quality today.
                              Sorry was wrong - Luis Saez was on the Essential Quality trip, and win, today. Sets up the Runhappy Travers on 8/28...should be interesting. Most of the fs2 announcers not totally impressed with the win. Thought the line he took (outside) made race a lot more difficult than it needed to be. Said he ran a lot more yards than necessary.

                              A win is a win, though.
                              Last edited by ab5sr; 07-31-2021, 06:49 PM.

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                                #16
                                During COVID challenges, I decided I'd really like to see a meet at Saratoga...looks like a cool place.

                                Been to DelMar but I'm totally stoked to go to Keeneland next year for Breeders Cup. Such a beautiful track. Couldn't go last year, obviously.


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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Bubblehead View Post
                                  During COVID challenges, I decided I'd really like to see a meet at Saratoga...looks like a cool place.

                                  Been to DelMar but I'm totally stoked to go to Keeneland next year for Breeders Cup. Such a beautiful track. Couldn't go last year, obviously.

                                  Me too. We've talked about driving it for a vacation. Have to make it over to Niagra Falls... looks like is 4 or 5 hrs give or take

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                                    #18
                                    Looks like no racing on Tv (at Saratoga) until Wed 8/4. My daughter heads to Tuscaloosa that day, interestingly.

                                    The only races that I was watching closely yesterday were the Amsterdam Stakes and race 5, won by Rotknee. He won by 3 lengths, cool that his sire is Runhappy(owner is Matress Mac...puts tons of $$$ into racing), although there are probably 200+ of them out there sired by him.

                                    I think Matress Mac bet 2M in the Derby and lost. hehe.
                                    Last edited by ab5sr; 08-02-2021, 05:50 AM.

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ab5sr View Post
                                      I started watching during the pandemic, maybe around June 2020. Any enthusiasts on here? Still have tons to learn as far as terminology, betting, G1 vs G2. etc. Lots on FS1, FS2.
                                      I’ve boatraced a whore….that’s as close as I come to horse racing.

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Me And My Butt View Post

                                        I’ve boatraced a whore….that’s as close as I come to horse racing.
                                        What again does that mean?

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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ab5sr View Post

                                          What again does that mean?
                                          In porn terms it means railed her really hard.

                                          In racing and sporting event is means major blowout.

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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Me And My Butt View Post

                                            In porn terms it means railed her really hard.

                                            In racing and sporting event is means major blowout.
                                            Good to know, thanks.

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                                              #23
                                              "Boatrace wearing #4 at 2-1 in the fifth."

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                                                #24
                                                Two big races, 1 Million G1, on Sat, The Whitney and The Saratoga Derby. The Whitney has Swiss Skydiver running, She, yes She,won the 2020 Preakness Stakes, the 2020 Santa Anita Oaks, 2020 Alabama Stakes, and 2021 Beholder Mile.

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                                                  #25
                                                  Good racing...next big one of interest is the G1 Alabama Stakes in 2 weeks.

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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by ab5sr View Post
                                                    Two big races, 1 Million G1, on Sat, The Whitney and The Saratoga Derby. The Whitney has Swiss Skydiver running, She, yes She,won the 2020 Preakness Stakes, the 2020 Santa Anita Oaks, 2020 Alabama Stakes, and 2021 Beholder Mile.
                                                    Love SS...did she win?

                                                    (I could look it up but I'd rather ask)

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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Bubblehead View Post

                                                      Love SS...did she win?

                                                      (I could look it up but I'd rather ask)
                                                      No she finished 4th :(

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                                                        #28
                                                        This weeks big race is the Alabama Stakes at Saratoga. Read more info. Looks like a rematch race, the horse that lost the first race is favored to take it.

                                                        Next week is the Travers Stakes, $1.25 million televised by FOX.

                                                        The Alabama is on FS2...

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                                                          #29
                                                          Malathaat did avenge her only loss, to Maracuja in the G1 Kentucky Oaks, as they had their anticipated rematch yesterday. Some good racing, next Sat is the Traver's Stakes, highlighted by Essential Quality, the favorite in the field. Travers Stakes:

                                                          Date: Saturday, August 28, 2021
                                                          Time: 5:45 p.m. ET FOX with coverage beginning at 5 p.m.
                                                          Track: Saratoga Park Race Course – Saratoga Springs, NY
                                                          Distance: 1 1/4 miles (10 furlongs)
                                                          Surface: Dirt

                                                          Remember that Essential Quality has a decent resume of first place finishes:

                                                          Breeders' Futurity Stakes (2020)
                                                          Southwest Stakes (2021)
                                                          Blue Grass Stakes (2021)
                                                          Jim Dandy Stakes (2021)

                                                          Triple Crown wins:
                                                          Belmont Stakes (2021)

                                                          Breeders' Cup wins:
                                                          Breeders' Cup Juvenile (2020)

                                                          Prerace favorite at the Kentucky Derby in 2021, he finished fourth behind Hot Rod Charlie, Mandaloun, and Medina Spirit (who apparently won't be DQ'd from the win).



                                                          Well I hear you went up to Saratoga
                                                          And your horse naturally won
                                                          Then you flew your lear jet up to Nova Scotia
                                                          To see the total eclipse of the sun

                                                          Well you're where you should be all the time
                                                          And when you're not, you're with some underworld spy
                                                          Or the wife of a close friend wife of a close friend and

                                                          You're so vain...
                                                          Last edited by ab5sr; 08-24-2021, 07:05 AM.

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                                                            #30
                                                            Great racing all day - 6 G1 races out of 13 made for a huge day. I didn't like flipping from FS2 to FS1 to big FOX and back to FS2, but it didn't take that much effort to push a button on a remote.

                                                            One strange thing happened, in the G1 Forego a horse tried to bite another horse, while they were still racing no doubt. Commentator mentioned that he's not seen it in over 40 years around the sport.

                                                            https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne..._in_Forego_123


                                                            Last edited by ab5sr; 08-29-2021, 05:59 AM.

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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ab5sr View Post
                                                              Malathaat did avenge her only loss, to Maracuja in the G1 Kentucky Oaks, as they had their anticipated rematch yesterday. Some good racing, next Sat is the Traver's Stakes, highlighted by Essential Quality, the favorite in the field. Travers Stakes:

                                                              Date: Saturday, August 28, 2021
                                                              Time: 5:45 p.m. ET FOX with coverage beginning at 5 p.m.
                                                              Track: Saratoga Park Race Course – Saratoga Springs, NY
                                                              Distance: 1 1/4 miles (10 furlongs)
                                                              Surface: Dirt

                                                              Remember that Essential Quality has a decent resume of first place finishes:

                                                              Breeders' Futurity Stakes (2020)
                                                              Southwest Stakes (2021)
                                                              Blue Grass Stakes (2021)
                                                              Jim Dandy Stakes (2021)

                                                              Triple Crown wins:
                                                              Belmont Stakes (2021)

                                                              Breeders' Cup wins:
                                                              Breeders' Cup Juvenile (2020)

                                                              Prerace favorite at the Kentucky Derby in 2021, he finished fourth behind Hot Rod Charlie, Mandaloun, and Medina Spirit (who apparently won't be DQ'd from the win).



                                                              Well I hear you went up to Saratoga
                                                              And your horse naturally won
                                                              Then you flew your lear jet up to Nova Scotia
                                                              To see the total eclipse of the sun

                                                              Well you're where you should be all the time
                                                              And when you're not, you're with some underworld spy
                                                              Or the wife of a close friend wife of a close friend and

                                                              You're so vain...
                                                              I was 5 years old and saw that exact eclipse and was in Nova Scotia to see it. My Dad was stationed in Northern Maine at the time.

                                                              Essential Quality is a boss.

                                                              Looking forward to Breeders Cup.

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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Bubblehead View Post


                                                                Looking forward to Breeders Cup.
                                                                Yeah would like to go out there. I think it' in November, Del Mar CA

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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by ab5sr View Post

                                                                  Yeah would like to go out there. I think it' in November, Del Mar CA
                                                                  Yes.

                                                                  I’m shooting for next year. All in at Keeneland.

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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Bubblehead View Post

                                                                    Yes.

                                                                    I’m shooting for next year. All in at Keeneland.
                                                                    Keenland would be a nice trip. We have relatives in Elizabethtown KY.

                                                                    We'll probably drive to Del Mar, diesel truck for the road trip. It'll be comfortable.

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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Love Del Mar...Like a movie set. (of course)

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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Always liked Paris Lights. She's under John Velazquez today at Belmont in the 3rd...looks like a nice setup for a comeback after a few down races.

                                                                        2/1 this morning.

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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Bubblehead View Post
                                                                          Always liked Paris Lights. She's under John Velazquez today at Belmont in the 3rd...looks like a nice setup for a comeback after a few down races.

                                                                          2/1 this morning.
                                                                          Well, she's apparently lost her spark. Stayed in touch until turn 3 and decided she was done. Sad to see but happens.

                                                                          Seems fillies can flash early and then fade quicker than colts...just my own observation, nothing scientific.

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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Art Collector and Maxfield in the Gr 1 Woodward today at Belmont. Great race. Art Collector won post to wire with Maxfield working into second on the turn for home. Those two are great horses that Covid and injuries have kept a bit of the shine off as duelers.

                                                                            I did cash an Exacta on this one...only $45 though on a $6 bet.

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                                                                              #39
                                                                              We just had a granddaugher born, preemie, so my wife needs to go to NC at the EOM - looks like Del Mar for the Breeder's Cup is on the ropes or out. Keenland next year might come to frution.

                                                                              I was looking at the horses in the main event...great field. I've seen most or all of these horses run, at Saratoga or the triple crown, all Grade 1 winners and champions. Essential Quality of Ncks Go look like the cream of the crop:

                                                                              Contenders

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                                                                                #40
                                                                                BREEDERS' CUP CLASSIC MOVES TO NBC PRIMETIME


                                                                                Retired Racing Hall of Fame jockey Gary Stevens, who will be part of the broadcast team at this year's Breeders' Cup World Championships from Santa Anita Park, sees an opportunity to promote the sport as a marquee race moves to primetime on network television.

                                                                                The Breeders' Cup World Championships will return to NBC Sports Group this year and the $5-million Breeders' Cup Classic (gr. I) will be broadcast in primetime on NBC.

                                                                                "It's the first time ever that this has happened. It's a huge shot in the arm not only for NBC, but in my opinion, for the sport of Thoroughbred horse racing for all of the players to be showcased in primetime," Stevens said. "That's been the goal since there's been television to actually have a primetime horse racing event. Fortunately we have that this year. It's going to showcase the stars that we have in this sport. It needed to be done for a long time and this is the perfect venue to do it."

                                                                                Stevens will team with host Tom Hammond, who was a reporter on the first Breeders' Cup broadcast for NBC in 1984, and racing analyst Randy Moss. Stevens said the riders who will be showcased in the Classic are well aware of the opportunity to promote horse racing to a primetime audience.

                                                                                "Jockeys are a lot more educated today than we were back in the day in the area of marketing. They are the familiar faces. Unfortunately our horses, because of injury or early retirement because of their breeding value; it's tough for the fans to relate to the top horses over time. There's only one Zenyatta that comes along in a lifetime," Stevens said. "But these jockeys are stars of the show, along with the horses. You see these guys at most of the big races, especially the Breeders' Cup."

                                                                                The Classic broadcast will wrap up 9 1/2 hours of Breeders' Cup television coverage beginning Nov. 2 from 4 to 8 p.m. EDT on NBC Sports Network and followed on Nov. 3 from 3:30 to 8 p.m. on NBC Sports Network. The day will end with the hour-long broadcast of the $5-million Classic on NBC as the Breeders' Cup returns to NBC for the first time since 2005.

                                                                                Producer Rob Hyland anticipates a beautiful late afternoon backdrop for the Breeders' Cup Classic and expects plenty of daylight for the Classic, scheduled to start at approximately 8:35 p.m. EDT. With the inner training path at Santa Anita, NBC plans to use a camera mounted in a truck to track horses through the backstretch, which he believes will offer some exciting live shots and replays

                                                                                https://www.breederscup.com/article/...-nbc-primetime

                                                                                *** So, there are 14 races on both Friday and Sat - perfect timing with OU having a bye. The biggest race, of course, is the Longines Classic $6 million purse, which this year is on prime time
                                                                                TV.

                                                                                All races and all contenders again -> https://www.breederscup.com/contenders/119

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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Here's another recap of this coming Fri/Sat:

                                                                                  It's the "World Cup" of thoroughbred racing - as top horses from around the globe meet to compete in the Breeders' Cup World Championship.
                                                                                  Just up ahead, check out the 2021 Breeders' Cup venue, ticket information and post positions, along with a bit of history and trivia about one of the most-anticipated horse races of the year.

                                                                                  This year, the 38th edition of the Breeders' Cup World Championships takes place on Friday, November 5 and Saturday, November 6, 2021 when the Breeders Cup Classic is set to air on NBC with a post time of 8:40 PM ET.

                                                                                  Contenders at the 2021 Breeders Cup Classic include 5-2 favorite Knicks Go, Kentucky Derby winner Medina Spirit, Derby 3rd place finisher Hot Rod Charlie, 4th place finisher Essential Quality, and 5th place finisher Max Player. Other favorites include Art Collector, Tripoli, Express Train, and the long-shot Stilleto Boy. (Just up ahead, check the official post positions and morning line odds announced on Monday.

                                                                                  2021 Breeders' Cup TV schedule

                                                                                  Fri., Nov. 5, 5:00 PM - 9:00 PM ET "Future Stars Friday" - NBCSN
                                                                                  Sat., Nov. 6, 2:30 PM ET - 8:00 PM ET - Championship Saturday- NBCSN
                                                                                  Sat., Nov. 6, 8:00 PM ET - Breeders' Cup Classic - NBC (post time 8:40 PM ET)

                                                                                  Horse & Post Position Jockey Trainer Morning Line Odds
                                                                                  1. Tripoli Irad Ortiz Jr. John W. Sadler 15-1
                                                                                  2. Express Train Victor Espinoza John A. Shirreffs 20-1
                                                                                  3. Hot Rod Charlie Flavien Prat Doug F. O'Neill 4-1
                                                                                  4. Essential Quality Luis Saez Brad H. Cox 3-1
                                                                                  5. Knicks Go Joel Rosario Brad H. Cox 5-2
                                                                                  6. Art Collector Mike Smith William I. Mott 8-1
                                                                                  7. Stilleto Boy Kent Desormeaux Ed Moger, Jr. 30-1
                                                                                  8. Medina Spirit John Velazquez Bob Baffert 4-1
                                                                                  9. Max Player Ricardo Santana, Jr. Steven M. Asmussen 8-1

                                                                                  Kind of interesting that Knick Go is the fav over Essential Quality. Both horses are trained by Brad Cox. Bob Baffert trains Medina Sprit, currently at 4-1. He won the Kentucky Derby, but sits behind both horses. Baffert was kick out of NY racing, but is not in CA

                                                                                  http://www.chiff.com/recreation/sports/breeders-cup.htm
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Race day starts today.

                                                                                    Just to note, the Kentucky Derby first place money is $1.86 million

                                                                                    Breeder's Cup first place money (Longine's Classic) is $3.3 million.

                                                                                    Recap again -> https://vimeo.com/606578928

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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      So for today's racing, Jack Christopher, heavy favorite in the TVG Juvenile presented by TAA the winner usually earmarked as next year's Kentucky Derby favorite, unfortunately scratched due to injury. Bob Baffert, who has 3 in today's Juvenile and the new favorite name 'Corniche', is banned from Churchill Downs. pending a ruling on Medina Spirit.

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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        1. Knicks Go
                                                                                        2. Medina Sprit
                                                                                        3. Essential Quality

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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Won a race today with Life is Good but EQ took my winnings. Disappointing.

                                                                                          The good thing is...the next Breeder's Cup I will be there! (I hope)

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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Bubblehead View Post
                                                                                            Won a race today with Life is Good but EQ took my winnings. Disappointing.

                                                                                            The good thing is...the next Breeder's Cup I will be there! (I hope)
                                                                                            Keeneland is only 14 hrs; me too, I can swing that!

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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Hell yeah! I"m gonna book as soon as I can.

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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Medina Spirit the 2021 Kentucky Derby winner and second in the breeders cup (vid above) died today apparently collapsed at Santa Anita race track after practice runs.

                                                                                                  Last edited by ab5sr; 12-07-2021, 06:18 AM.

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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    The next big race is 2022 Pegasus World Cup (G1)

                                                                                                    It'll be Knicks Go's final race...Jan 29 NBC

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